DCJonah Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 With FFP and increased money for league finishes. We're causing long term damage continuing to finish near the bottom. It will start to cement our position as that sort of team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The new £5bn+ tv deal for 2016 to 2019 is too lucrative for AVFC to miss out on. Lerner is seriously gambling with our future and his investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walesavfc Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The latest package of tv rights is set to sell for £4.5billion, a 45% increase on the last tv deal Wonder if that is enough to tempt any potential buyers i Have a feeling it will be more like £5-6 billion, sky will be scared having lost champions league football, would meen £100million+ a season,add into that discovery have plenty of clout and now own espn and google wanting some sport on prime. Even the poorest prem club would be in top 30 richest clubs in world The defence rests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 BROKEN ARROW YOU USLESS word removed, WERE GETTING **** SLAUGHTERED, WAKE UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted February 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2015 If anyone from the club is reading this site, then tell Randy this: Keeping Lambert on after all our terrible form this season and after tonight's game will be more disrespectful to the fans than at any other point during your tenure at the club. Even more so than appointing McLeish when the fans protesting outside the ground against his appointment. You said that you were purely about ethos and tradition when you bought the club, you have shamed yourself if you keep this man on and just accept us going down without a fight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Worst thing to happen to Villa in my lifetime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Worst thing to happen to Villa in my lifetime. Agreed. And not sacking Lambert will cement that even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I can assure you this guy has no contingency plan. No way does he have another manager lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I can assure you this guy has no contingency plan. No way does he have another manager lined up. He couldn't line up kids in a dinner hall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 His apathy is killing the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobler Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Stan's write up tonight: Let's rewind several years to President Emeritus Doug Ellis selling our club to Mr Randy Learner, owner of Clevland Browns sports franchise and very wealthy man.Many Villa fans were excited, as in the new Premier League era the only way to get into the Champions League and get continued success was to embrace the billionaire sugar daddy, wherever he came from and whatever his motive.I remember talking on the radio at the time and welcomed Mr Lerner but with the caveat that investment into our great club was sensible, sustainable and that the hope would be he would be around for the long haul, and not walk out on the club.There were the odd sightings of the quiet man, sipping pints, roars of USA USA at Villa Park and the odd Stars and Stripes flag in the Holte and to be honest then i started to worry.Why?Aston Villa is one of the great European Clubs. Make no mistake, we founded the league that is now so profitable around the world, conducted our business in a way that other clubs modeled themselves on, have the 4th most successful trophy haul in the land ( notwithstanding the new oil money/clubs ) , and our proud history should always be taken care of, embraced and enhanced by whoever has the honour of running the club.So when rumours of overspending, Chief Executives "learning on the job", having a short term "Champions League or bust" philosophy became a reality 3 or so years ago, the relegation timer started to tick.It's unusual for us Villa fans. We've never sold our soul like some clubs, we've been a consistent in the Premier League and Football League by the values that we need to embrace right now. Low key, prudent spending, bringing through local talent, shrewd spending and support at the grandest of old stadia which is the envy of many clubs has seen us be competitive virtually for the entirety of our 140 years.That's how we've done it for 140 years, not 20 years or 4 years like some, 140 years, and we need to go back to basics now before it's too late.We have a choice Villa fans, do the same as everyone else and hope that some megalomaniac from Russia or an Emirate takes us over, rebrands us with gaudy signs, plasters their company over our listed Trinity walls or we do it another way.That way, with the increase in broadcast money would see us, Villa fans take a significant and long term interest in our club, and start negotiating immediately with Mr Lerner to this aim, to let us be heard, to let us buy some of our club and like great German clubs that manage to do this, be competitive, be solvent and most importantly be stable.Aston Villa is a unique football club, and at the moment on and off the pitch is in a state quite simply because we did not do enough as Villa fans to ask which direction, which model we wanted OUR club to go in.Mr Lerner, i hope you read this and understand that however far away you are, however little you take interest in our club on the ground in Aston or at Bodymoor Heath, you can make a huge difference right now by engaging with the fans or fans groups face to face, come over and engage with people who want to help Villa on and off the pitch and make sure that your legacy ( which i'm sure you wanted to be a positive one) can and will have a happy ending.If you can sell, and stay a very wealthy man by dropping the asking price, then please do that, to ensure that the club can start to move forward with some belief and purpose rather than the negative, stale atmosphere currently which helps no one. It doesn't help the fans, players, day to day staff or manager, so please effect change now. It was part of your remit as guardian of the club when you chose to buy this grand old club. To leave it in a better state than you found it.You aren't doing that at the moment.For Villa fans, i remember the old man Deadly coming into the Villa dressing room on the first day of every pre season.'Remember one thing, you're playing for England's grandest football club".It would be wise for us all as fans, players, manager and owner to remember that right now.Mr Lerner, if you can't do it, let us take some of the slack and have our say at our club. Let us in, let us have a stake in Aston Villa Football Club.Up The Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 What's your asking price now, Randy? The only good thing about all this is Randy will pay for his negligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted February 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2015 Stan's write up tonight: Let's rewind several years to President Emeritus Doug Ellis selling our club to Mr Randy Learner, owner of Clevland Browns sports franchise and very wealthy man.Many Villa fans were excited, as in the new Premier League era the only way to get into the Champions League and get continued success was to embrace the billionaire sugar daddy, wherever he came from and whatever his motive.I remember talking on the radio at the time and welcomed Mr Lerner but with the caveat that investment into our great club was sensible, sustainable and that the hope would be he would be around for the long haul, and not walk out on the club.There were the odd sightings of the quiet man, sipping pints, roars of USA USA at Villa Park and the odd Stars and Stripes flag in the Holte and to be honest then i started to worry.Why?Aston Villa is one of the great European Clubs. Make no mistake, we founded the league that is now so profitable around the world, conducted our business in a way that other clubs modeled themselves on, have the 4th most successful trophy haul in the land ( notwithstanding the new oil money/clubs ) , and our proud history should always be taken care of, embraced and enhanced by whoever has the honour of running the club.So when rumours of overspending, Chief Executives "learning on the job", having a short term "Champions League or bust" philosophy became a reality 3 or so years ago, the relegation timer started to tick.It's unusual for us Villa fans. We've never sold our soul like some clubs, we've been a consistent in the Premier League and Football League by the values that we need to embrace right now. Low key, prudent spending, bringing through local talent, shrewd spending and support at the grandest of old stadia which is the envy of many clubs has seen us be competitive virtually for the entirety of our 140 years.That's how we've done it for 140 years, not 20 years or 4 years like some, 140 years, and we need to go back to basics now before it's too late.We have a choice Villa fans, do the same as everyone else and hope that some megalomaniac from Russia or an Emirate takes us over, rebrands us with gaudy signs, plasters their company over our listed Trinity walls or we do it another way.That way, with the increase in broadcast money would see us, Villa fans take a significant and long term interest in our club, and start negotiating immediately with Mr Lerner to this aim, to let us be heard, to let us buy some of our club and like great German clubs that manage to do this, be competitive, be solvent and most importantly be stable.Aston Villa is a unique football club, and at the moment on and off the pitch is in a state quite simply because we did not do enough as Villa fans to ask which direction, which model we wanted OUR club to go in.Mr Lerner, i hope you read this and understand that however far away you are, however little you take interest in our club on the ground in Aston or at Bodymoor Heath, you can make a huge difference right now by engaging with the fans or fans groups face to face, come over and engage with people who want to help Villa on and off the pitch and make sure that your legacy ( which i'm sure you wanted to be a positive one) can and will have a happy ending.If you can sell, and stay a very wealthy man by dropping the asking price, then please do that, to ensure that the club can start to move forward with some belief and purpose rather than the negative, stale atmosphere currently which helps no one. It doesn't help the fans, players, day to day staff or manager, so please effect change now. It was part of your remit as guardian of the club when you chose to buy this grand old club. To leave it in a better state than you found it.You aren't doing that at the moment.For Villa fans, i remember the old man Deadly coming into the Villa dressing room on the first day of every pre season.'Remember one thing, you're playing for England's grandest football club".It would be wise for us all as fans, players, manager and owner to remember that right now.Mr Lerner, if you can't do it, let us take some of the slack and have our say at our club. Let us in, let us have a stake in Aston Villa Football Club.Up The Villa. Collymore is a clearing in the woods. He deserves absolutely no credit for his time at Villa and his constant harping on about being a fan frankly makes me sick! As for him saying: "It would be wise for us all as fans, players, manager and owner to remember that right now." Cheeky **** - he was a lazy bastard when he was at the club!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Mr Lerner, please don't be fooled or misled by Paul Lambert's comments after tonight's game. What else can he say? I'll walk and just wave goodbye to whatever money Villa would have had to pay me if they fired me? Lambert is no fool. He will stick it out and take our club down into the Championship for the first time in our history. Those players are not playing for their manager. They don't appear to care much for him on the playing field and there's only one end in sight for us - relegation. Mr Lerner, I'm sure you are a proud man and won't want to be remembered as the first owner to see us relegated out of the Premier League, do you? Imagine the dishonour in that! All kinds of poor performance records have been broken during your tenure. Please don't add the worst of all to that list. If Lambert stays we will have a hugely realistic chance of going down. Therefore, please do the right thing before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Anyone else thinks that he wont sack lambert just because of pure lazyness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Anyone else thinks that he wont sack lambert just because of pure lazyness? That or because Lambert takes the heat off him and/or he does not want to pay up the 4 year contract he gave him. The extra TV money is gone if we go down. But he is on the beech at the moment and his thoughts are not on this, his custodian role at the club or on the bright future he once promised if they have been at any point in recent years. Edited February 10, 2015 by John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Folks stop talking to Lerner as though he reads VT, the fool doesn't care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 BROKEN ARROW YOU USLESS word removed, WERE GETTING **** SLAUGHTERED, WAKE UP! BROKEN ARROW!! Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Anyone else thinks that he wont sack lambert just because of pure lazyness? Don't be crackers!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcowans21 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I love the Villa with all my heart, i really do. But im at the point now where im thinking F**k You Lerner, i hope you don't get that TV money. You have gambled for too long now and have no regard for the fans whatsover in the last few years. The only protest (regarding Lambert) that will will hit Lerner hard is if we had a game where only 10000 fans turn up (which wont happen). Hit him in the pocket, he is a business man, thats all that would make him take notice. While 30000 + crowds keep turning up, he thinks we are quite happy as supporters being served up total crap week after week. Edited February 10, 2015 by sidcowans21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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