Jarpie Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 He seems to be getting the Bent treatment.. Hopefully not, probably just the usual rotation what Lambert does but imo Ireland should be starting every game he's fit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Can go in January for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I agree, Ireland and Bent may as well go in January. Both would be in my team but if the manager isnt going to play them, id rather we cashed in and bought experienced players he does want.No point in havent either on the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Hasn't started in the last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Suppose we sell Ireland and Bent. Our wage bill is suddenly reduced by £140k/week, which should be enough for Lambert to get 7 players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy_Evergo Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 His days are obviously numbered here. When Lambert brings on a centre half with zero experience as a midfielder in preference at a vital stage of a crucial game, then it's Goodnight Vienna. Let's hope we don't sell him to a relegation rival as he still has quality. I'd like to see him shipped abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Let's hope we don't sell him to a relegation rival as he still has quality. I'd like to see him shipped abroad. I'd like to see him stay - it's only a couple of games and he has been in the squad... Maybe a touch of a niggle. We look more composed with him in the team for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I'd play him more advanced, right side attack. He's playing too deep in midfield to hurt anybody, I don't think it's his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ireland & Bent are both clearly in the departure lounge as Randys dangerous cost cutting programme is full steam ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 That would be really unfortunate if that were the case. Depressing as hell too. Arguably our 2 best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 If Lambert can unearth gems like Westwood and Benteke I'm not really arsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 2, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted December 2, 2012 yup, second striker in a 4-4-1-1 would be ideal for ireland, but we aren't playing that way, or at the top of a diamond with bent and benteke up front woudl be really attacking but we don't play like that either. centrally in a 4-2-3-1 (which we DO play) as part of the 3 he should be pushed up and run beyond the striker as often as possible. that's something we could do, but would leave us light in the middle if the other players in the 3 are gabby and weimann. personally i'd prefer to see him playing, same with bent, but if the other players we have fit better together in a shape that doesn't suit them we can't play a team that suits two talented players and compromises the other 9. makes more sense to play 11 in a way that suits them all. freeing up £140k a week in wages is £7m+ a year. we need more numbers in the squad, i'd trust lambert/henke to find 4 or 5 players to bolster and improve the squad with those resources. so if they aren't going to play, they should go, sellers market in jan too. seems to all add up at the mo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 One of the worst attacking teams in the league. One of the worst goal scoring teams in the league. Ireland and Bent sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 One of the worst attacking teams in the league. One of the worst goal scoring teams in the league. Ireland and Bent sit on the bench. That's football. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 One of the worst attacking teams in the league. One of the worst goal scoring teams in the league. Ireland and Bent sit on the bench. Ireland doesn't really score or create much when he's in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ireland doesn't really score or create much when he's in the team. So what's his point in playing? (not that I disagree) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 That's football. . why is that in any way football? i don't get your point. i just think it is madness to leave out better players with obvious talent. If you need goals, but the players that get you goals don't fit in the team set-up, change the set-up. It's not hard. if ireland and bent will get us goals, build a team around them, because what we need is goals! not a team of youngsters that try hard. i like the players that are currently in the team but the fact is for the last 2 games we have been lucky not to get torn apart, lucky the other team hasn't shown up either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ireland doesn't really score or create much when he's in the team. He gives us much needed composure in attack, fluidity and creativity even if he doesnt have many assists in his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 So what's his point in playing? (not that I disagree) I'm not sure what you're asking here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Ireland doesn't score and gets very few assists albeit he did well when he came on v Reading and we looked better / sharper going forward Overall though for 68k a week I'd expect a lot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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