AVFCforever1991 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 How about Poyet, with ray wilkins as assistant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wedge Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Had a dream last night we re-appointed McLeish *shudder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I just want this to end now. Would be interesting to give Paciencia a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Had a nightmare last night we re-appointed McLeish *shudder* Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I dont understand why any remote reason is used to sharpen then knives and come out kicking off at RL/PF? Anything and its on them its seems, it makes no sense and doesn't help anything imo. Once again we're a big part of the problem and we need to be careful that we dont become and un-manageable club because of our distaste to the owners and any new manager. 'Support' is a very loose term round VP it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I wonder if there's anyone at the club trying to tell PF and RL that this "shortlist and interview"-stuff doesn't work at all in european football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 What I would say is that Lerner and Faulkner need to rapidly reevaluate the "offer". If you apporach a candidate that you want, you start talking about what is needed at the club and the transfer budget available you cannot expect managers with anything about them to be motivated to accept if the transfer budget consists of 'you can keep whatever sales you make'. I'm afraid Lerner and Faulkner need to understand where we are going as a club if that is the sum total of the rebuilding fund. That is not being candid with yourselves or the supporters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 This thread needs a poll now more than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djamfisher Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 This thread needs a poll now more than ever. I think we should have a vote on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I dont understand why any remote reason is used to sharpen then knives and come out kicking off at RL/PF? Anything and its on them its seems, it makes no sense and doesn't help anything imo. Once again we're a big part of the problem and we need to be careful that we dont become and un-manageable club because of our distaste to the owners and any new manager. 'Support' is a very loose term round VP it seems. Absolutely, they get far too hard a ride as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Father Abraham has tweeted that we are still after a young, vibrant and hungry manager. Not to piss on RL & PF's chips but generally a manager that fits that criteria usually expects a decent transfer budget to build a squad that he can work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Has there been any indications that we'd have piss-poor transfer budget for this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 to be fair i've never seen a Pilchard comment that wasn't along the lines of "oh no, bollocks, rubbish, idiots, dross, crap pathetic" so, who would Mr Pilchard have as managaer of AVFC? Me neither, which is why I asked him a few pages back who he wanted. His reply was commendably civil, and surprisingly reasonable. He wants Lambert. So if we get Lambert, I'm sure Mr P will be endlessly supportive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 What I would say is that Lerner and Faulkner need to rapidly reevaluate the "offer". If you apporach a candidate that you want, you start talking about what is needed at the club and the transfer budget available you cannot expect managers with anything about them to be motivated to accept if the transfer budget consists of 'you can keep whatever sales you make'. I'm afraid Lerner and Faulkner need to understand where we are going as a club if that is the sum total of the rebuilding fund. That is not being candid with yourselves or the supporters And you know that's the offer made to OGS how exactly ? Surely if that was the offer he would have immediately said he wasn't interested, when in fact after the "informal meeting" he seemed to send out positive messages about wanting the job. Something else happene to change his mind, none of us know what, but I suspect it wasn't at the Villa end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSTERYMAN Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 What I would say is that Lerner and Faulkner need to rapidly reevaluate the "offer". If you apporach a candidate that you want, you start talking about what is needed at the club and the transfer budget available you cannot expect managers with anything about them to be motivated to accept if the transfer budget consists of 'you can keep whatever sales you make'. I'm afraid Lerner and Faulkner need to understand where we are going as a club if that is the sum total of the rebuilding fund. That is not being candid with yourselves or the supporters And you know that's the offer made to OGS how exactly ? Surely if that was the offer he would have immediately said he wasn't interested, when in fact after the "informal meeting" he seemed to send out positive messages about wanting the job. Something else happene to change his mind, none of us know what, but I suspect it wasn't at the Villa end. He was never made an offer :!: Impressed with him but not enough to take it any further but was a Good back up option . I admit I wanted him and haven't a clue as I have said before who the other candidates they have seen :!: are . My take on it is : Outstanding candidates Martinez not sure we would go through the fiasco again and he is meeting Liverpool in Boston today but YES Lambert YES would have him but is he too much like Martin ONeil ? for Board to go down that route Options Rogers has already turned down Liverpool so won’t come to us Poyet Possible with experienced coach ? Quite like him Di Matteo can’t argue he has won things but is he billy big time ? didn’t exactly do wonders at WBA but wouldn’t rule him out . The kudos is good about him but nagging doubt was he already had the infrastructure there Ian Holloway fits the bill good eye for a bargain but is he too Barry Fry and his comments last season about Villa ruled him out Then the outsiders Kevin Mac proved in his last spell he wasn’t up to it coaching the first team and would be Another Terry Connor Grayson preparing for a play off game didn’t cut it in the championship , fans would be up in arms Zola with Steve Clarke ? Uninspiring and aint sure Hoddle my choice but been out of work too long ? Southgate safe pair of hands but again hardly likely to be vibrant for the club Lee Clarke see Zola comments Uninspiring and aint sure Chris Hughton good manager and proven but would we go down that route again from the dark side Rank outsiders David Moyes Perfect choice but hardly likely to leave Everton for Villa unless we have said we will spend heavily Rannerri past his sell by date and flitting in and out . Check book Manager Bilbao Manager like him a lot but destined I think for bigger things than Villa Bob Bradley wasn’t considered before why now ? Nigel Adkins done a great job at Soton can’t see him leaving Ones we don’t know about ? Foreign Managers who are young / vibrant doing it in their leagues ? Guy just left Lazio as an example don’t know enough about them to give an opinion on it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Decent summing up apart from RM there, MM. Liverpool are welcome to Martinez. Not much to pick from, is there? With Jol and Hughes there were better choices last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 You forgot AVB, MM? :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 What I would say is that Lerner and Faulkner need to rapidly reevaluate the "offer". If you apporach a candidate that you want, you start talking about what is needed at the club and the transfer budget available you cannot expect managers with anything about them to be motivated to accept if the transfer budget consists of 'you can keep whatever sales you make'. I'm afraid Lerner and Faulkner need to understand where we are going as a club if that is the sum total of the rebuilding fund. That is not being candid with yourselves or the supporters And you know that's the offer made to OGS how exactly ? Surely if that was the offer he would have immediately said he wasn't interested, when in fact after the "informal meeting" he seemed to send out positive messages about wanting the job. Something else happene to change his mind, none of us know what, but I suspect it wasn't at the Villa end. He was never made an offer :!: Impressed with him but not enough to take it any further but was a Good back up option . I admit I wanted him and haven't a clue as I have said before who the other candidates they have seen :!: are . My take on it is : Outstanding candidates Martinez not sure we would go through the fiasco again and he is meeting Liverpool in Boston today but YES Lambert YES would have him but is he too much like Martin ONeil ? for Board to go down that route Options Rogers has already turned down Liverpool so won’t come to us Poyet Possible with experienced coach ? Quite like him Di Matteo can’t argue he has won things but is he billy big time ? didn’t exactly do wonders at WBA but wouldn’t rule him out . The kudos is good about him but nagging doubt was he already had the infrastructure there Ian Holloway fits the bill good eye for a bargain but is he too Barry Fry and his comments last season about Villa ruled him out Then the outsiders Kevin Mac proved in his last spell he wasn’t up to it coaching the first team and would be Another Terry Connor Grayson preparing for a play off game didn’t cut it in the championship , fans would be up in arms Zola with Steve Clarke ? Uninspiring and aint sure Hoddle my choice but been out of work too long ? Southgate safe pair of hands but again hardly likely to be vibrant for the club Lee Clarke see Zola comments Uninspiring and aint sure Chris Hughton good manager and proven but would we go down that route again from the dark side Rank outsiders David Moyes Perfect choice but hardly likely to leave Everton for Villa unless we have said we will spend heavily Rannerri past his sell by date and flitting in and out . Check book Manager Bilbao Manager like him a lot but destined I think for bigger things than Villa Bob Bradley wasn’t considered before why now ? Nigel Adkins done a great job at Soton can’t see him leaving Ones we don’t know about ? Foreign Managers who are young / vibrant doing it in their leagues ? Guy just left Lazio as an example don’t know enough about them to give an opinion on it . Do you know if the club/PF/RL knows how frustated fans are with The Search and total lack of communication from the club to the fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 So we never even offered OGS the job!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYSTERYMAN Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Decent summing up apart from RM there, MM. Liverpool are welcome to Martinez. Not much to pick from, is there? With Jol and Hughes there were better choices last year. I would have had Hughes last season but RL wasn't interested too much baggage think that was down to his agent . Also think Jol would have been good aswell . As for AVB discounted him but maybe he is under consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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