moose Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The names being mentioned really are a bag of uninspiring dross. This, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 If OGS is a no we need to go all out now for Lambert or Poyet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The names being mentioned really are a bag of uninspiring dross. condiering you have badmouthed every manager or link since Houllier who do you think should be manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Well the board have been telling journos before OGS pulled out that OGS was a 'good' candidate but they also have some 'great candidates' too. Time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There is something seriously amiss here that we have fans thinking that Lambert, Rodgers, Martinez, Adkins wouldn’t want to come to us. I am not saying they are wrong in thinking that but what has happened to our mentality that we should be thinking like that. No disrespect to the likes of Norwich, Swansea, Wigan and Southampton but when Aston Villa come calling you should be willing to walk to VP to sign on the dotted line. As stated previously if we can’t get a manager from a club like that then we are either not being ruthless enough in pursuing them or we are not doing a very good sales pitch. Regardless of the turmoil of the last couple of seasons Aston Villa is still one of the biggest clubs in this country with a fantastic history, great stadium, some of the best training facilities around and a large and passionate fan base who with the right manager and a little bit of hope will back the club. It should not be a difficult sell to the vast majority of managers for Lerner and Faulkner. If it is proving difficult then they are doing something seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Also I am a little miffed at the board. Not because of OGS, because I don't think that could be helped. I am miffed because of the series of ****-ups since MON left. The complete cutting back on investment rather than making it more gradual has made us look at a pretty low level of manager. After MON left I wouldn't mind betting some very decent managers would have been interested or even receptive to an approach. Now we are in the position we were in when Lerner took over but without the optimism and attractiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain1973uk Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I would be happy with poyet, if it's grayson then crowds will be lower than last season and I for one will be returning my season ticket as I can't cope with watching another season of shit football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There is something seriously amiss here that we have fans thinking that Lambert, Rodgers, Martinez, Adkins wouldn’t want to come to us. I am not saying they are wrong in thinking that but what has happened to our mentality that we should be thinking like that. No disrespect to the likes of Norwich, Swansea, Wigan and Southampton but when Aston Villa come calling you should be willing to walk to VP to sign on the dotted line. As stated previously if we can’t get a manager from a club like that then we are either not being ruthless enough in pursuing them or we are not doing a very good sales pitch. Regardless of the turmoil of the last couple of seasons Aston Villa is still one of the biggest clubs in this country with a fantastic history, great stadium, some of the best training facilities around and a large and passionate fan base who with the right manager and a little bit of hope will back the club. It should not be a difficult sell to the vast majority of managers for Lerner and Faulkner. If it is proving difficult then they are doing something seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There is something seriously amiss here that we have fans thinking that Lambert, Rodgers, Martinez, Adkins wouldn’t want to come to us. I am not saying they are wrong in thinking that but what has happened to our mentality that we should be thinking like that. No disrespect to the likes of Norwich, Swansea, Wigan and Southampton but when Aston Villa come calling you should be willing to walk to VP to sign on the dotted line. As stated previously if we can’t get a manager from a club like that then we are either not being ruthless enough in pursuing them or we are not doing a very good sales pitch. Regardless of the turmoil of the last couple of seasons Aston Villa is still one of the biggest clubs in this country with a fantastic history, great stadium, some of the best training facilities around and a large and passionate fan base who with the right manager and a little bit of hope will back the club. It should not be a difficult sell to the vast majority of managers for Lerner and Faulkner. If it is proving difficult then they are doing something seriously wrong. Sadly I think you're right. It's not the job that's the problem, it's the lack of ruthlessness with which it's being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 poyet is an unpleasant individual who will embarrass us by getting into petty touchline fights with other managers all too often. No temperamental south americans please. ice cool scandinavians is what I want grayson is a ridiculous link, based on the statements put out by the club after sacking 'him', to hire an average league one manager would be tantamount to telling the fans to go **** do one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 There is something seriously amiss here that we have fans thinking that Lambert, Rodgers, Martinez, Adkins wouldn’t want to come to us. I am not saying they are wrong in thinking that but what has happened to our mentality that we should be thinking like that. No disrespect to the likes of Norwich, Swansea, Wigan and Southampton but when Aston Villa come calling you should be willing to walk to VP to sign on the dotted line. As stated previously if we can’t get a manager from a club like that then we are either not being ruthless enough in pursuing them or we are not doing a very good sales pitch. Regardless of the turmoil of the last couple of seasons Aston Villa is still one of the biggest clubs in this country with a fantastic history, great stadium, some of the best training facilities around and a large and passionate fan base who with the right manager and a little bit of hope will back the club. It should not be a difficult sell to the vast majority of managers for Lerner and Faulkner. If it is proving difficult then they are doing something seriously wrong. 10, 15, 20 years ago I would agree with you. However the game is all about money and champions league. Take Adkins at Southampton for example. What job would get him noticed more by the likes of Spurs, Newcastle, L'pool etc. Taking Southampton to midtable with good financial backing? or taking over at Villa with a lack of investment and getting them to midtable? I am not sure reputation and a proud history count for much anymore. I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
string28 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I wonder if we are waiting to see what happens with Martinez and liverpool. Bit of a gamble if we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The names being mentioned really are a bag of uninspiring dross. condiering you have badmouthed every manager or link since Houllier who do you think should be manager? Every manager since Houllier has been Alex McLeish - I'm sure you were very supportive of the appointment, his work as an Aston Villa manager and the fruits of his labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 After MON left I wouldn't mind betting some very decent managers would have been interested or even receptive to an approach. I’m not so sure. I think after Mon left that it wasn’t that attractive to a lot of managers. Expectation levels were pretty high at that time and it was not going to be an easy job maintaining top 6 finishes and flirting with top 4. The club has now slipped back to a level where in Premiership terms the only was is pretty much up. A 9th/10th/11th place finish next season will be considered a good season when only two years ago it would have been seen as a failure. It is a fantastic opportunity for many a manager providing they are backed with some decent funds. It wouldn’t take much to get this club on a roll again and to get some forward momentum going and quickly turn our fortunes around. It happened under GT MK1, it happened under Big Ron and it happened under O’Neill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irreverentad Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 After MON left I wouldn't mind betting some very decent managers would have been interested or even receptive to an approach. I’m not so sure. I think after Mon left that it wasn’t that attractive to a lot of managers. Expectation levels were pretty high at that time and it was not going to be an easy job maintaining top 6 finishes and flirting with top 4. The club has now slipped back to a level where in Premiership terms the only was is pretty much up. A 9th/10th/11th place finish next season will be considered a good season when only two years ago it would have been seen as a failure. It is a fantastic opportunity for many a manager providing they are backed with some decent funds. It wouldn’t take much to get this club on a roll again and to get some forward momentum going and quickly turn our fortunes around. happened under GT MK1, it happened under Big Ron and it happened under O’Neill. That is the bit I am worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 23, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2012 The names being mentioned really are a bag of uninspiring dross. condiering you have badmouthed every manager or link since Houllier who do you think should be manager? Every manager since Houllier has been Alex McLeish - I'm sure you were very supportive of the appointment, his work as an Aston Villa manager and the fruits of his labour. OR LINK to be fair i've never seen a Pilchard comment that wasn't along the lines of "oh no, bollocks, rubbish, idiots, dross, crap pathetic" so, who would Mr Pilchard have as managaer of AVFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Just like OGS did, Mark their is something seriously wrong at our board level. Not being funny but couldn't stand Doug but in terms of PR disasters this would never have happened under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I am not sure reputation and a proud history count for much anymore. I hope I am wrong. It does seem that way.. it's all about the present in football it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I think we are waiting for Liverpool to see the Martinez situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I think we are going to get Paul Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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