itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) I was shocked when I read in a match report he was playing as a central midfielder in a 4231, can anyone confirm this? If so what on gods earth?! He's no holding midfielder and if we did play 4231 he needs to play in the middle and be an understudy/eventually replace Cole. Edited July 18, 2014 by itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 He was playing as a CM. He played as a CM in the next gen series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I was shocked when I read in a match report he was playing as a central midfielder in a 4231, can anyone confirm this? If so what on gods earth?! He's no holding midfielder and if we did play 4231 he needs to play in the middle and be an understudy/eventually replace Cole. Heaven forbid we experiment in friendlies! Think of the children, won't someone please think of the children!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 This is one of the young players I thought would be a good one. I thought he did ok on loan but was then injured, but he needs to get a chance to play, either with the first team or on loan, to see if he can make the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 He was playing as a CM. He played as a CM in the next gen series. Good god, tactical ineptitude runs rife doesn't it. I thought during the Next Gen he did well, though so did Gardner, the Premier League is such a huge step up. He cut in from the wing while at MK Dons, probably a more suitable position. I really hope he gets some good chances this year, but I can't see us getting the best from him in CM without a tackling midfielder to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I was shocked when I read in a match report he was playing as a central midfielder in a 4231, can anyone confirm this? If so what on gods earth?! He's no holding midfielder and if we did play 4231 he needs to play in the middle and be an understudy/eventually replace Cole. Heaven forbid we experiment in friendlies! Think of the children, won't someone please think of the children!!! Last year was an experiement of 2 midfielders who can't tackle but are both quality in their own right, plus many other experiements which worked out less well for us...Bacuna, the constant use of Bennett at left back...should I go on? I'm all for experimenting, Gabby can't play on the wing, perhaps we should use him as a wing back......but in all seriousness if it was an experiment perhaps he'd have moved to Cole's position after he was taken off, you know, his natural position...... I don't know what happened in the game, hence asking, I can only assume you don't either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommybread Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) He always plays in the deep two for Ireland so CM isn't a foreign position to him. He also played for your reserves in CM as well. Edited July 18, 2014 by tommybread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Similar to Grealish in that he starts centrally but drifts wide to pick up the ball. Interesting to see what sort of a chance he gets this season, think it will be another loan spell initially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isgill88 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Another one who played against Mansfield but isn't in the US squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decavfc Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Maybe another loan is needed this season to aid his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Maybe another loan is needed this season to aid his development. He's 21 now, if it isn't going to be given a chance now then the manager should do the decent thing and sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I was a bit disappointed with his performance against Mansfield. Perhaps he was trying too hard to impress or it was down to fitness, but he lost the ball a fair few times and didn't really make any impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I really don't think Lambert rates him that much, wasn't their stories in his 1st season here of Carruthers having an attitude problem at the training ground. Think the only youngsters that will get any sort of game time this season will be Grealish and Robinson and Robbo will probably be going out on loan seeing as he didn't go on the trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Shame, Ill always remember gingernut giving him a chance at 0-4 down at Old Trafford where it looked like we actually had a worldbeater young talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I really don't think Lambert rates him that much, wasn't their stories in his 1st season here of Carruthers having an attitude problem at the training ground. Think the only youngsters that will get any sort of game time this season will be Grealish and Robinson and Robbo will probably be going out on loan seeing as he didn't go on the trip. Don't think it was an attitude problem per se, wasn't it just that Carrurhers used his mobile when he shouldn't have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I really don't think Lambert rates him that much, wasn't their stories in his 1st season here of Carruthers having an attitude problem at the training ground. Think the only youngsters that will get any sort of game time this season will be Grealish and Robinson and Robbo will probably be going out on loan seeing as he didn't go on the trip. Don't think it was an attitude problem per se, wasn't it just that Carrurhers used his mobile when he shouldn't have? This is very true, apparently calling for a taxi. It has to be an attitude problem, or a personality clash because he can't be any worse than players like Bennet and Stevens. We finally have a player who can link midfield and attack (Cole) so why not take an understudy, he suits the role.Those suggesting he plays a deeper/central role, I can understand that but we have Westwood for that and though I really like Ashley it's not a position that works in our current tactics.(without a tougher tackling midfielder alongside) Managers know their players better than we do and know what's good for their team but I just can't believe Samir is that far off the pace, he's skilful, a good passer and likes to run at players with intelligence and not just pace....we don't have many of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have always liked what I have seen from him, hope he gets a chance. I have visions of this mobile phone thing being a Dom Joly type 'What...no, I'm in the managers squad meeting...no, it's rubbish'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdoesntmatterwhatthissay Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I have always liked what I have seen from him, hope he gets a chance. I have visions of this mobile phone thing being a Dom Joly type 'What...no, I'm in the managers squad meeting...no, it's rubbish'. Ha, very good....I might steal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted July 31, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2014 Saw in the match thread that he both had a great and a shit game last night depending on who you believe? Was he playing centrally and deep? I think the shit comments might come from him having a tidy game further back (where he played for the u21s for us captaining I think?) but I didn't see the game. Anyone see him last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah I watched the game and thought he still looked rusty as hell. Gave the ball away a fair bit and didn't really do anything particularly great when he didn't give it away. That said he is coming back from a major injury and I wouldn't expect anything else at this point. I still hope that he can stay with the first team this year because I think he has the potential to make it in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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