MrDuck Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Houllier had a good reputation, a good track record, the ability to draw some talented players. Results did not match the promise. But to blame that on RL is, IMO, nonsense. Sometimes good decisions don't work out. My friend built a new home. It was beautiful until the tornado. RL did not "get it wrong last time." I'm not defending our results, but RL doesn't deserve the blame. Many of us thought at the time that regardless of reputation and track record it was a huge risk to bring back a man into the stress of PL management who'd had serious heart problems in the past. RL chose, wrongly, to overlook that issue. He got it... wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Houllier had a good reputation, a good track record, the ability to draw some talented players. Results did not match the promise. But to blame that on RL is, IMO, nonsense. Sometimes good decisions don't work out. My friend built a new home. It was beautiful until the tornado. RL did not "get it wrong last time." I'm not defending our results, but RL doesn't deserve the blame. Many of us thought at the time that regardless of reputation and track record it was a huge risk to bring back a man into the stress of PL management who'd had serious heart problems in the past. RL chose, wrongly, to overlook that issue. He got it... wrong. Funnily enough when we bought in Houllier i never even thought of his health. But i did immediately think of his incredibly boring but succesful enough Liverpool side. Didn't think it was a bad choice tho at time necessarily but he had been out of magament for few years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 this is excrutiating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Houllier had a good reputation, a good track record, the ability to draw some talented players. Results did not match the promise. But to blame that on RL is, IMO, nonsense. Sometimes good decisions don't work out. My friend built a new home. It was beautiful until the tornado. RL did not "get it wrong last time." I'm not defending our results, but RL doesn't deserve the blame. Many of us thought at the time that regardless of reputation and track record it was a huge risk to bring back a man into the stress of PL management who'd had serious heart problems in the past. RL chose, wrongly, to overlook that issue. He got it... wrong. So anyone that isn't clairvoyant and able to predict the future accurately is guilty of getting decisions wrong... wow. Did you know I was going to say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 this is exciting/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Houllier had a good reputation, a good track record, the ability to draw some talented players. Results did not match the promise. But to blame that on RL is, IMO, nonsense. Sometimes good decisions don't work out. My friend built a new home. It was beautiful until the tornado. RL did not "get it wrong last time." I'm not defending our results, but RL doesn't deserve the blame. Many of us thought at the time that regardless of reputation and track record it was a huge risk to bring back a man into the stress of PL management who'd had serious heart problems in the past. RL chose, wrongly, to overlook that issue. He got it... wrong. So anyone that isn't clairvoyant and able to predict the future accurately is guilty of getting decisions wrong... wow. Did you know I was going to say that? It was a risk. Lots of people thought it was a risk. Randy presumably knew about his previous health problems. He presumably thought they weren't an issue. In retrospect, he made the wrong decision. Or do you think he made the right decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 D'ya reckon there's any chance they might make an announcement in the next ten minutes? My eyes are getting pretty heavy now :yawn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Houllier had a good reputation, a good track record, the ability to draw some talented players. Results did not match the promise. But to blame that on RL is, IMO, nonsense. Sometimes good decisions don't work out. My friend built a new home. It was beautiful until the tornado. RL did not "get it wrong last time." I'm not defending our results, but RL doesn't deserve the blame. Many of us thought at the time that regardless of reputation and track record it was a huge risk to bring back a man into the stress of PL management who'd had serious heart problems in the past. RL chose, wrongly, to overlook that issue. He got it... wrong. So anyone that isn't clairvoyant and able to predict the future accurately is guilty of getting decisions wrong... wow. Did you know I was going to say that? It was a risk. Lots of people thought it was a risk. Randy presumably knew about his previous health problems. He presumably thought they weren't an issue. In retrospect, he made the wrong decision. Or do you think he made the right decision? I think I've already said, it didn't work out well. Any decision is a risk... people on this site have been critical of any name mentioned. Ancelotti is a risk, he might move on too quickly. Hughes is a risk, he might not be able to succeed without unlimited funds. The decision to hire Houllier was a sound and reasonable decision at the time. Calling a decision wrong because the unpredictable occurred is IMO nonsense. Again, did you know I was going to respond this way? If not, you made a wrong decision by posting, by your definition of wrong decisions My position is clear. So is yours. We disagree with the definition of wrong decision as it applies to hiring Houllier. I won't bore the rest of the board by repeating the same ideas over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Houllier had a good reputation, a good track record, the ability to draw some talented players. Results did not match the promise. But to blame that on RL is, IMO, nonsense. Sometimes good decisions don't work out. My friend built a new home. It was beautiful until the tornado. RL did not "get it wrong last time." I'm not defending our results, but RL doesn't deserve the blame. Many of us thought at the time that regardless of reputation and track record it was a huge risk to bring back a man into the stress of PL management who'd had serious heart problems in the past. RL chose, wrongly, to overlook that issue. He got it... wrong. So anyone that isn't clairvoyant and able to predict the future accurately is guilty of getting decisions wrong... wow. Did you know I was going to say that? It was a risk. Lots of people thought it was a risk. Randy presumably knew about his previous health problems. He presumably thought they weren't an issue. In retrospect, he made the wrong decision. Or do you think he made the right decision? I think I've already said, it didn't work out well. Any decision is a risk... people on this site have been critical of any name mentioned. Ancelotti is a risk, he might move on too quickly. Hughes is a risk, he might not be able to succeed without unlimited funds. The decision to hire Houllier was a sound and reasonable decision at the time. Calling a decision wrong because the unpredictable occurred is IMO nonsense. Again, did you know I was going to respond this way? If not, you made a wrong decision by posting, by your definition of wrong decisions My position is clear. So is yours. We disagree with the definition of wrong decision as it applies to hiring Houllier. I won't bore the rest of the board by repeating the same ideas over and over again. I had a fair inkling that you were going to respond with more nonsense, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I voted for Coyle; I'd like to give him a chance to build something here at the Villa. I can wait for success; not one who needs instant gratification. How come Holloway wasn't in the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 D'ya reckon there's any chance they might make an announcement in the next ten minutes? My eyes are getting pretty heavy now :yawn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Just slapped £15 on Didier Deschamps @ 40/1. Good odds for a manager on the brink of leaving his Club and known to be after a job in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 D'ya reckon there's any chance they might make an announcement in the next ten minutes? My eyes are getting pretty heavy now :yawn: Jesus christ, that freakishly ugly thing just woke me up again Is it Zigic in fancy dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenz Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Jesus christ, that freakishly ugly thing just woke me up again Is it Zigic in fancy dress? That's not Zigic.... it's his Mrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 According to the Guardian we never even made contact with Ancelotti :- "The former Chelsea manager has not received any contact from Villa and he is known to have no interest in the position. Ancelotti, according to sources close to the Italian is holding out for a club that can offer Champions League football." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenBlue Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Guardian also said Hughes terminated his contract for money, and with the hope Villa would pick him up. Same agent as Carlos Tevez. According to their sources, the frontrunners for the Villa position are McClaren and Jol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I suspect the papers haven't got a clue what's happening. It's all guess work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 According to the Guardian we never even made contact with Ancelotti :- "The former Chelsea manager has not received any contact from Villa and he is known to have no interest in the position. Ancelotti, according to sources close to the Italian is holding out for a club that can offer Champions League football." I read this and just called bollocks because what club will he be able to get Champs League at that will be hiring.... Marseille= Do not think so Bayern Munich= very very highly doubt it Don't think it is over quite yet with us and Carlo...Id put my money on him or Jol atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I hope we don't get Hughes but I'd rather have him than Shteve Bastard McLaren. His stupid face is annoying enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 Ronald Koeman anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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