VillaChris Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 hours ago, useless said: If I've worked it out right, they've taken thirty-five points from thirty games since his appointment, and they took thirty-two points from thirty games before his appointment. Have to admit I thought the improvement was more significant than that. They really struggle to win games at Goodison under him. Last season they won the critical Bournemouth game on the last day but before that their last home win was early March. This season already lost to Fulham, Wolves and Luton and couldn't hold on v out of form Brighton with five minutes left. They've only scored more than once at home under him in one game and he's been in charge for about 15 games I think. They've massively improved away though considering how bad they were for months under Benitez and Lampard so he deserves credit for building resilience there. As I've said before they're like us under Lambert now. We tended to pick up better away results under him for periods in season and also go months without winning at VP. 2014 so only two more seasons to go before they finally get relegated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Deducted 10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Wow, 10 points confirmed. Guess they’ll appeal and get some reduction on it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaAlex Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Deducted 10 points. Bet they can't believe how lucky they are it's this season. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 They'll easily stay up 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted November 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 About time. We’re always constantly talking about how Everton’s money has ruined football. How Everton’s disproportion spending has skewed the game in their favour. How Everton’s financial doping is unfair to the rest of the league and has given them an unfair advantage. Everton really have made football what it is and have ruined the game as we know it. Strip Everton of all their titles they have gained through their cheating. 6 1 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted November 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2023 If they were getting the hit this is probably the best time to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 They'll still stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 17, 2023 Yup of all the years to get this punishment, this is the year to have it. Bottom of the league is woeful this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Mantis said: They'll still stay up. Hrmmm - maybe. But this will take them to 4 points with a run of: Man Utd (H), Forest (A), Newcastle (H), Chelsea (H), Burnley (A), Spurs (A), Man City (H), Wolves (A), Villa (H) If they don't get some points there (and it's actually feasible they get 0 - though very unlikely) , I imagine confidence will hit rock bottom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: They'll easily stay up I’m not sure about easily. They’ve been shit for a long time albeit they’ve had a good little run in recent weeks. They’ll be bottom of the league 5 points from safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero7 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Think they will survive as there is some right dross in the bottom half this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: Hrmmm - maybe. But this will take them to 4 points with a run of: Man Utd (H), Forest (A), Newcastle (H), Chelsea (H), Burnley (A), Spurs (A), Man City (H), Wolves (A), Villa (H) If they don't get some points there (and it's actually feasible they get 0 - though very unlikely) , I imagine confidence will hit rock bottom. The bottom 4 are that bad though. Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised if 30 points was enough to keep you up this season, and they would've probably ended up getting 42-45 before the deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 They will survive. Does this mean that Chelsea and City should actually be worried though? City will be playing Sunday League at this point if most of their charges stand up - Everton got 10 points for a £9m overspend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) That's the precedent now. Everton have stated that they're going to appeal, but also they'll be monitoring any punishment other clubs may receive. Edited November 17, 2023 by Jonesy7211 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Feels like they've just plucked this points deduction from thin air. It's basically the same punishment as Everton going into administration. So way I read it Everton manipulated FFP accounts from covid to avoid going into administration (given they've needed cashflow help at times in last 12 months) and so prem have come up with 10 points. Will surely go down to 4-5 points on appeal. And if they're getting done with 10 points I look forward to Man. City receiving their 10 000 point deduction in a few years time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zero7 said: Think they will survive as there is some right dross in the bottom half this season Agree, they have timed it right to receive their penalty. Last season and they would have been doomed, but this season the other teams are partcularly poor and Everton are picking up enough results under Dyche as well, so I think they will still be fine this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 They are more than happy to punish clubs like Everton but when it comes to the likes of City they do nothing. It's laughable how corrupt the league is at this point. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Just now, Mantis said: The bottom 4 are that bad though. Put it this way, I wouldn't be surprised if 30 points was enough to keep you up this season, and they would've probably ended up getting 42-45 before the deduction. This is Everton's home run up to middle of February: Man. United Chelsea Newcastle Man. City Us Spurs Can see them turning over Man. United but they'll struggle to win many of the other home games imo. Think they took 1 point from that batch of games last season. Have to say Sheffield United need to be relegated at new year if they can't galvanise themselves now. They have Bournemouth and Luton at home and Burnley away up to Boxing day so they have a big chance to get some wins and start building a lead over Everton. And obviously Bournemouth and Luton aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 This sets a precedent, so it'll be fascinating to see what punishment the likes of Chelsea could receive given they apparently have done so much worse financially over the years. I think Everton will survive because there are clubs so much worse than them this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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