SikhInTrinity Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With Bent we would be safe now. Tell that to Fulham Don't know about Fulham, but he'd be a clear upgrade to what we have now that Benteke and Kozak are out. I wouldn't expect him to score many, just a few to see us up. I can't see any of our forwards, Gabby, Andi, Holt, Callum, or anyone else scoring. With Darren we'd at least stand a chance. he is behind 2 kids and Hugo Rodallega at Fulham, hasn't scored a goal from the start all season and has less goals than Libor Kozak who has been injured since christmas The Darren Bent who was at Villa when Lambert took over who was fairly confident and scoring goals - would have kept us up had he stayed and played. The Darren Bent who got bumped for Jordan Bowery, didn't play for most of the season and then got sent to Fulham wouldn't keep up a tent. The Darren Bent who was at Villa when Lambert took over, you forgetting some of his performances i.e. West Ham, Everton, the man didn't even get a kick. All these players being mentioned like Lichaj, Bannan, Ireland, Bent, they were all given a chance under PL and they didn't perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With the balls Marc is putting in Darren would have a few goals under his belt. But we have holt or andi in stead No he wouldn't. He makes Grant Holt look trim, I have watched him waddling his fat arse now and again this season, no pace, no sharpness. Absolute garbage. We have done well to save on his wages this season. We won't get away with it next. Finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With Bent we would be safe now. Tell that to Fulham Don't know about Fulham, but he'd be a clear upgrade to what we have now that Benteke and Kozak are out. I wouldn't expect him to score many, just a few to see us up. I can't see any of our forwards, Gabby, Andi, Holt, Callum, or anyone else scoring. With Darren we'd at least stand a chance. he is behind 2 kids and Hugo Rodallega at Fulham, hasn't scored a goal from the start all season and has less goals than Libor Kozak who has been injured since christmas The Darren Bent who was at Villa when Lambert took over who was fairly confident and scoring goals - would have kept us up had he stayed and played. The Darren Bent who got bumped for Jordan Bowery, didn't play for most of the season and then got sent to Fulham wouldn't keep up a tent. The Darren Bent who was at Villa when Lambert took over, you forgetting some of his performances i.e. West Ham, Everton, the man didn't even get a kick. All these players being mentioned like Lichaj, Bannan, Ireland, Bent, they were all given a chance under PL and they didn't perform. he was crap at times but he would have managed more goals than Weimann or Gabby i have no romanticised view of anyone - but freezing him out, destroying his confidence and reputation whilst reducing his value and paying or subsidising his wages is a cracking strategy!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With the balls Marc is putting in Darren would have a few goals under his belt. But we have holt or andi in stead No he wouldn't. He makes Grant Holt look trim, I have watched him waddling his fat arse now and again this season, no pace, no sharpness. Absolute garbage. We have done well to save on his wages this season. We won't get away with it next. Finished. and whose fault is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) With Bent we would be safe now. Tell that to Fulham Don't know about Fulham, but he'd be a clear upgrade to what we have now that Benteke and Kozak are out. I wouldn't expect him to score many, just a few to see us up. I can't see any of our forwards, Gabby, Andi, Holt, Callum, or anyone else scoring. With Darren we'd at least stand a chance. he is behind 2 kids and Hugo Rodallega at Fulham, hasn't scored a goal from the start all season and has less goals than Libor Kozak who has been injured since christmas The Darren Bent who was at Villa when Lambert took over who was fairly confident and scoring goals - would have kept us up had he stayed and played. The Darren Bent who got bumped for Jordan Bowery, didn't play for most of the season and then got sent to Fulham wouldn't keep up a tent. The Darren Bent who was at Villa when Lambert took over, you forgetting some of his performances i.e. West Ham, Everton, the man didn't even get a kick. All these players being mentioned like Lichaj, Bannan, Ireland, Bent, they were all given a chance under PL and they didn't perform. he was crap at times but he would have managed more goals than Weimann or Gabby i have no romanticised view of anyone - but freezing him out, destroying his confidence and reputation whilst reducing his value and paying or subsidising his wages is a cracking strategy!!! Scoring a few more goals than Weimann or Gabby would not have justified paying his salary for a full season and have him whinging and disrupting the squad, With the balls Marc is putting in Darren would have a few goals under his belt. But we have holt or andi in stead No he wouldn't. He makes Grant Holt look trim, I have watched him waddling his fat arse now and again this season, no pace, no sharpness. Absolute garbage. We have done well to save on his wages this season. We won't get away with it next. Finished. and whose fault is that? Darren Bent's. He got his retirement contract from us and has been enjoying it ever since. If he can't be arsed to get in shape or adapt his game to survive them good riddance. It's embarrassing watching him nowadays, blowing out of his arse after coming on the bench 5 minutes earlier. Edited April 29, 2014 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 He didn't do it for Mcleish He didn't do it for Lambert He didn't do it for Jol He didn't do it for Rene He hasn't done it for Magath. Why is it a longer a player is away, the better he suddenly becomes?, By all means criticise Lambert and the club but not on this one. No way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 we don't know one way or another what impact he would have if still here, or if he hadn't have fallen out with Lambert. Too many circumstances and variables on what first started his downfall. but baring in mind I bet we are paying well over half his wages anyway, wouldn't it have been better to keep him involved and then sold him. It's still conjecture but i do think had Lambert not frozen him out completely or Randy asked 8 mil for him we could have flogged him to someone. The loan to Fullham has just been the final nail in his career coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Lets just hope he doesn't help Fulham in their last two games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Bent and Potato Head could send us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Bent probably won't see the pitch for the rest of the season. The mythical legend of Bent still being good continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Bent has only scored 3 goals in 22 games for Fulham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Bent probably won't see the pitch for the rest of the season. The mythical legend of Bent still being good continues. you could send him a photo of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 we don't know one way or another what impact he would have if still here, or if he hadn't have fallen out with Lambert. Too many circumstances and variables on what first started his downfall. but baring in mind I bet we are paying well over half his wages anyway, wouldn't it have been better to keep him involved and then sold him. It's still conjecture but i do think had Lambert not frozen him out completely or Randy asked 8 mil for him we could have flogged him to someone. The loan to Fullham has just been the final nail in his career coffin. Nobody wanted him, it didn't matter that he wasn't playing. Everyone knows who Darren bent is and what you get from him. He thought he was too good to go to palace and in the end took his only other option. Speaks volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With the balls Marc is putting in Darren would have a few goals under his belt. But we have holt or andi in stead No he wouldn't. He makes Grant Holt look trim, I have watched him waddling his fat arse now and again this season, no pace, no sharpness. Absolute garbage. We have done well to save on his wages this season. We won't get away with it next. Finished. what makes you think we have saved on his wages? I very much doubt if Fulham are paying full whack for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With the balls Marc is putting in Darren would have a few goals under his belt. But we have holt or andi in stead No he wouldn't. He makes Grant Holt look trim, I have watched him waddling his fat arse now and again this season, no pace, no sharpness. Absolute garbage.We have done well to save on his wages this season. We won't get away with it next. Finished. what makes you think we have saved on his wages? I very much doubt if Fulham are paying full whack for him. Yep they took his full wage and paid a loan fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 29, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted April 29, 2014 Lambert alienated and ruined Bent. It's been downhill for him since. To me it's reasonable to assume Darren would've been much better if Lambert would've acted differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 With the balls Marc is putting in Darren would have a few goals under his belt. But we have holt or andi in stead No he wouldn't. He makes Grant Holt look trim, I have watched him waddling his fat arse now and again this season, no pace, no sharpness. Absolute garbage.We have done well to save on his wages this season. We won't get away with it next. Finished. what makes you think we have saved on his wages? I very much doubt if Fulham are paying full whack for him. Yep they took his full wage and paid a loan fee. have any proof of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Lambert alienated and ruined Bent. It's been downhill for him since. To me it's reasonable to assume Darren would've been much better if Lambert would've acted differently. exactly just as people have a romantic view of former players being better than they were we all have a tendency of forgetting how players are mishandled or when they were actually good for us. Usually it is easier for fans to follow the narrative that best suits the current circumstances of the club/manager, in some cases that narrative seems to read Lambert was right to start Bowery on the bench ahead of Bent Bent was too one dimensional and didn't fit in the new tactical shape and team set up that Lambert had in mind for our future (a great future) Bent was egotistical, disruptive and this became clear... but only after a full pre-season that lead to him being given the club captaincy Reducing a player's value from 24 mil to nothing and sending him on loan to a rival relegation candidate is just circumstance, he was never worth that anyway and no better than any other striker we have. He contrived to shape his own downfall for a number of reasons. Odd then that so many people here want Lambert to be sacked yet so few seem to think the fall of Bent is anyway linked. For the record I do think Bent is limited, but he has always managed to score goals throughout his career and never looked like he has a poor attitude or is lazy. He should have been kept in the squad and played as an impact player until sold. But things are never that black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 There was a funny moment in the Fulham Hull game when he got played in and trod on the ball. He will sit in the stands all of next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prmort Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Bent and Potato Head could send us down. ....and Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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