NowDoINotLikeThat Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Indeed tonyh29 but what about the other stuff i said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Have to admit all this footage of Ghadaffi being killed is bit grim. it's a strange one for me .. was he executed by a mob ..almost certainly ... did he deserve it ..almost certainly .. does that make it right ..almost certainly not but saying that I doubt many people will be shedding a tear over his death Yes, exactly. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 The key is whether the constituent parts of the NTC turn on each other like rats in a sack now that their common enemy is dead. As others have observed there are plenty of total nutters in the mix and over that you can lay tribal tensions that are not dissimilar to Yemen. The only other positives are the apparent attachment of the youth to a democratic future and the absence of a Sunni vs Shia dynamic that caused problems in Iraq and Bahrain. I'd agree that it's far from over but on balance our intervention was the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Did the they Lynch Gaddaffi's son too ? Reports were his convoy was surrounded then it went quiet ?? Was this the really nasty son, the one who was personally involved in many murders and tortures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Pretty shocking scenes. Can they go from that level of violence to being able to disagree peacefully with each other in a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelc Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Pretty shocking scenes. Can they go from that level of violence to being able to disagree peacefully with each other in a democracy. Not a chance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Philip Hammond says that the final cost of operations in Libya was £212 million, made up of £145 million of operating costs including £67 million for replacing spent munitions when do we get our contracts to rebuild Libya to help raise this £212m ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6bloke Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Philip Hammond says that the final cost of operations in Libya was £212 million, made up of £145 million of operating costs including £67 million for replacing spent munitions when do we get our contracts to rebuild Libya to help raise this £212m ?? They will get it from oil maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Philip Hammond says that the final cost of operations in Libya was £212 million, made up of £145 million of operating costs including £67 million for replacing spent munitions when do we get our contracts to rebuild Libya to help raise this £212m ?? They will get it from oil maybe? we already got that from the last government releasing Al-Megrahi ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b6bloke Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 A lot coming out recently about key people in Irans Nuclear program being assasinated with Mosad being prime suspects. Could get nasty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 8, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2011 There was an interesting comment from Michael Portillo (of all people ) on This Week, last week, regarding Iran's nuclear program. He mentioned that they had had, in the past couple of months, 2 large explosions occur at a couple of their facilities, the first we know killed quite a few people and the second we know less about but his comments suggested, quite heavily, that they weren't accidents. Israel has previous on that kind of thing, they attacked Egypt's growing nuclear facilities years ago (when they were still on particularly bad terms) and raised it to the ground, completely stopping the program in it's tracks. They are also alleged to have attacked Iran's facilities with a computer virus, which is supposed to have done quite a bit of damage initially but quickly was rectified. You could suspect that rather a large portion of Iran's nuclear program will turned to glass in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 raised it to the ground Where's mooney when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 So the Muslim Brotherhood claim to have won the Egyptian election, the Generals have dissolved Parliament and seized it's power for themselves and the secular and tolerant Egypt sought in 'Tahrir Square' is nowhere in sight.. Meet the new boss, slightly more powerful and sinister than the old boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 19, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2012 raised it to the ground Where's mooney when you need him? I'm trying to cut down. I'm down to three corrections a day. These patches are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I can't see the muslim brotherhood lasting long in Egypt. There is a significant christian and secular population. I also can't imagine women will take it too well. Unless they get the army onside and do an Iran, but I can't see Israel sitting back and accepting it. It'll get messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 So the Muslim Brotherhood claim to have won the Egyptian election, the Generals have dissolved Parliament and seized it's power for themselves and the secular and tolerant Egypt sought in 'Tahrir Square' is nowhere in sight.. Meet the new boss, slightly more powerful and sinister than the old boss. Quite a bit more powerful, if this is accurate. Millions of Egyptians went to bed last night thinking they had elected a president with full executive powers and woke up this morning in a military dictatorship. Just after the presidential polls closed, the generals granted themselves sweeping powers in a constitutional declaration that completes the coup started by dissolving parliament. If the generals have their way, Egypt's new president will not be able to legislate, control the budget, appoint members to a committee writing the new constitution, declare war or change the membership of the military council which assumes all these powers. The president will be able to appoint a cabinet and approve laws but whole swaths of policymaking – such as defence, national security or indeed the military's vast commercial empire – will be a closed book to him. But this is far from settled. While it makes no sense for the military dictators to go quietly, neither does it make sense for those who have taken to the streets and seen friends and family murdered, to accept this coup. A way to go yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I can't see the muslim brotherhood lasting long in Egypt. There is a significant christian and secular population. I also can't imagine women will take it too well. Unless they get the army onside and do an Iran, but I can't see Israel sitting back and accepting it. It'll get messy. A hostile Egypt is Israel's worst case scenario...the weapons will flow freely to Gaza, and it'll be game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 What is wrong with these people ? Every time you see arabs on TV they have their face covered and they are firing guns up in the air ! Why cant they do what other males all around the world do eg watch football, go to the movies, watch porn etc,etc,etc FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Every time you see arabs on TV they have their face covered and they are firing guns up in the air ! That's because filming the 98% of people who are watching football, going to the movies, watching porn etc. doesn't make very interesting viewing on 24hr news channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I realise that but what I mean is that if the other 2% went to football matches or watched porn etc we would not have all this trouble in the middle east would we ? It must be really frustrating bieng a guy over there.The only bit of leg you get to see is your owne, and you can"t even check out the local chicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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