PaulC Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Sorry I see him more as an attacking midfield player myself 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Sorry I see him more as an attacking midfield player myself Same here, he's only played a more defensive role over the last 18 months because he's been asked to do a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarpie Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 With Sylla on team he's been given more freedom to go forward which has contributed on his great form. Our midfield trio seems to compliment each other very well, I hope they all can keep their form next season and we'll have very good midfield in our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Delph's quite a complete midfielder really - he can do both defensive and offensive things pretty well. Lambert seems to have got him focused and not being as mental as he previously was (also see Joe Bennett) - which can only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 for me he is hands down the most improved player this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 for me he is hands down the most improved player this season Agree. He has a very decent all round game, even his tackling got much, much better since he got a run in the side. I just wish he could shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Delph's quite a complete midfielder really - he can do both defensive and offensive things pretty well. Lambert seems to have got him focused and not being as mental as he previously was (also see Joe Bennett) - which can only be a good thing. Where did you get the idea Delph can do "offensive things pretty well"? Not saying he can't improved there, but he's contributed no goals and assists, and relatively few key passes. I would venture to suggest he is primarily a defensive player, and that is what earns him his stripes with Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Well Con, when you watch his all round game it has become apparent that he has an awful lot of drive and over the last couple of months seems more offensive orientated. A cracking player who I feel will will have a very good season for us next year. I am glad he wasn't totally written off even when a large number of fans were very critical of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Balance....thats the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Well Con, when you watch his all round game it has become apparent that he has an awful lot of drive and over the last couple of months seems more offensive orientated. A cracking player who I feel will will have a very good season for us next year. I am glad he wasn't totally written off even when a large number of fans were very critical of him. I disagree. He has no goals or assists, and makes few key passes so is not likely to get many in a season. Where do you get the idea he is offensive orientated? You've not explained that. Yes, I know he makes "runs" but surely you would agree an offensive player needs to do more than this. I'm not criticising Delph for not being an offensive player, I'd have him in the team for what he's doing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArteSuave Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Well Con, when you watch his all round game it has become apparent that he has an awful lot of drive and over the last couple of months seems more offensive orientated. A cracking player who I feel will will have a very good season for us next year. I am glad he wasn't totally written off even when a large number of fans were very critical of him. I disagree. He has no goals or assists, and makes few key passes so is not likely to get many in a season. Where do you get the idea he is offensive orientated? You've not explained that. Yes, I know he makes "runs" but surely you would agree an offensive player needs to do more than this. I'm not criticising Delph for not being an offensive player, I'd have him in the team for what he's doing now. He has one less assist and the same number of goals as the best crosser and set piece taker in world football. What more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 On the loosest definition of an assist used by the fantasy premier league game Bannan has three assists, Delph still has zero. This is not bad for Delph, this just illustrates the point I'm making that Delph is a defensive player. At least, that has been his role for us this season, and he has shown no signs of changing to a more attacking player. He's always made those runs, and runs alone don't an attacking player make. Delph's runs are deceptive, provide an illusion of attacking intent but none of his 34 successful take-ons have materialise in any assists or goals. Meanwhile 14 of his take-ons were unsuccessful, which means he gave the ball away cheaply, probably in the middle of the pitch where it is most useful for the opposition. If Delph can't make his runs count for us, they'll count against us and he better stop doing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 You can sometimes get too carried away with assists and other stats. It is what you see with your own eyes that's more important and Delph is looking a very good midfield player. The way he drives forward with the ball is something we haven't had for some time. Delph drives forward and passes backward, negating the purpose of driving forward (to gain territory). When he skips challenges it's entertaining to watch, but if there is no end product, key passes or goals, what's the point?There is no reason why he can't drive forward and find a more effective outlet than someone behind him.If there is no end product there is no point to the run. He risks turning over the ball - something he does much more than our other midfielders: 21 times in 19 matches. Turning over the ball in the middle of the pitch leaves us open to counter-attack. He is our Interception King, and a good tackler, so I don't expect him to score goals to keep his place. There's got to be some end product to the runs though. How much 'end product' is on the end of Bannan's crosses, passes and set pieces? Delph has more impact because he moves the play forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Delph has not been a greater attacking threat than Bannan. He's in the side for his defensive qualities, and I expect that to be his primary role in this division. The way some of you are talking you'd think Delph was Neymar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Delph has not been a greater attacking threat than Bannan. He's in the side for his defensive qualities, and I expect that to be his primary role in this division. The way some of you are talking you'd think Delph was Neymar. Bannan has been more of an attacking threat for Liverpool this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The way some of you are talking you'd think Delph was Neymar. Sweet irony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Can we please not have more about wee Barry and focus on Fabian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Delphino finally delivering on some of the potential that a number of managers have seen in him. Confidence growing, and building a rapport with the fans. Think he will have a big season next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Delph has not been a greater attacking threat than Bannan. He's in the side for his defensive qualities, and I expect that to be his primary role in this division. The way some of you are talking you'd think Delph was Neymar. I don't agree, he's in the side for much more than his defensive qualities. The assists and goals will come. He just needs to have a little more belief in himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Delph has not been a greater attacking threat than Bannan. He's in the side for his defensive qualities, and I expect that to be his primary role in this division. The way some of you are talking you'd think Delph was Neymar. I don't agree, he's in the side for much more than his defensive qualities. The assists and goals will come. He just needs to have a little more belief in himself. You should expect some goals and assists from defensive players. Ramires has 5 goals this season. Three were against us! Fact is, Delph has got zero of either despite being our 10th most-played outfielder in game time this season. The idea that he can reproduce his Leeds highlight reel form, from Division One, where he scored 6 in 46 is over. In the Premier League defences are much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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