8pints Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Delph Midfielder = DM Everyone just get off Con's back! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm happy to call him something other than a DM. How about CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm happy to call him something other than a DM. How about CM? Well damn, I would never have thought of that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm happy to call him something other than a DM. How about CM? How about M? Cause that's what he is, lets be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 How about we just call him - better than Barry Bannan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) VT alway makes me laugh, thanks guys Edited May 12, 2013 by AVFCforever1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Last 2 pages are gold. Please keep going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I ate a big red candle......and Delph is clearly a left-back. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I ate a big red candle......and Delph is clearly a left-back. Kobold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 But neither Delph or Ramires are DM's. What are they? Do they really have to have a Football Manager assigned role? If so, I guess I would go with Advanced Playmaker with their job role set to 'Support'. However I wouldn't argue if somebody suggested a Box-to-Box Midfielder with job role set to 'Attack'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Like... why do we alays have to label everything... man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 If so, I guess I would go with Advanced Playmaker with their job role set to 'Support'. However I wouldn't argue if somebody suggested a Box-to-Box Midfielder with job role set to 'Attack'. Apparently I don't have the imagination to understand how Delph can be described as "advanced playmaker" or "attacking box-to-box midfielder". Are you sure these are not roles you want him to play, rather than what he actually does? Frankly, I'm staggered. I'd be willing to call him a CM, but if I was honest about what he's good at, it's the defensive part of the game. Stephen Ireland is an advanced playmaker. Steven Gerrard is an attacking box-to-box midfielder. Delph does not fit the profile of either. Delph might simply be completely unique and uncategorisable. Defensive midfielder with a licence to roam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel1Avfc Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 He can't shoot for beans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I haven't seen the heat maps, but just from what I seem to remember seeing when watching the games, I'd say he was more box-to-box. I imagine a DM to sit in front of the back four andvery rarely venture forward, if at all. Delph has had some marauding runs forward this season, especially as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I haven't seen the heat maps, but just from what I seem to remember seeing when watching the games, I'd say he was more box-to-box. I imagine a DM to sit in front of the back four andvery rarely venture forward, if at all. Delph has had some marauding runs forward this season, especially as of late. I agree he doesn't 'sit' in front of the back four. I used the term DM because his better qualities are defensive: tackling, making interceptions, keeping the ball playing the simple pass. He does carry the ball forward well (dribbling) which is an attacking quality you don't associate with DM play. Unlike most regular CMs or AMs he doesn't have vision for the forward pass, which is more like a DM. Bannan has best creative vision for the forward pass, Westwood can do it at least a bit (Norwich assist for 2 goal), Delph is worse at that out of the three. Coutinho at Liverpool is the best example of a player with vision who can make great forward passes. Delph has not shown he is anything like Coutinho and Coutinho has not shown he is anything like Delph defensively. The rule is: Delph runs forward, passes backwards. 45% of his passes are backwards according to Squawka, compared to 36% for Westwood and Bannan. Maybe he would score more goals if he ran forward and took a shot. So he's either a CM or DM "with licence to roam". I still can't think of another player similar to Delph in stature for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 The rule is: Delph runs forward, passes backwards. 45% of his passes are backwards according to Squawka So the rule is he passes forwards more surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I used the term DM because his better qualities are defensive: tackling No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 The rule is: Delph runs forward, passes backwards. 45% of his passes are backwards according to Squawka So the rule is he passes forwards more surely? He does not pass forwards at the rate you'd expect for an attacking player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 He's not a purely attacking player just like he's not a defensive one. Jeez, everything isn't black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 He's not a purely attacking player just like he's not a defensive one. Jeez, everything isn't black and white. You'd agree he's not an "advanced playmaker" then? I would be happy to call him a CM, with greater emphasis on the defensive aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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