bickster Posted September 4, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2010 Christ on a bike, his record at Darlington was terrible! Lets hope he's a better coach than he is manager. It wasn't any better when he coached Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartin82 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Every manager signs a bag of duds at some point. Surely some of the players he signs can't be any worse than Davies, Beye or Sidwell. Actually imo some of them really were Salif Diao (SP) Bruno Cheyrou Djimi Traore Titi Camara Eric Meijer Gregory Vignal Igor Biscan all fit the bill as being worse I personally believe the manager should be judged on his best signings than his worst signings. As the previous poster said, every manager buys some junk. I however believe that MON's best Villa signings are far better from Houllier's best Liverpool signings. I'm only going from memory though and am open to be convinced otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Christ on a bike, his record at Darlington was terrible! Lets hope he's a better coach than he is manager. It wasn't any better when he coached Leeds Indeed, maybe we should be aiming very high for our new 1st team coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Dont blame it on Hamann. Dont blame it on Biscan. Dont blame it on Finnan. Blame it on Traore! He just cant,he just cant, he just cant control his feet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 4, 2010 Moderator Share Posted September 4, 2010 Every manager signs a bag of duds at some point. Surely some of the players he signs can't be any worse than Davies, Beye or Sidwell. Actually imo some of them really were Salif Diao (SP) Bruno Cheyrou Djimi Traore Titi Camara Eric Meijer Gregory Vignal Igor Biscan all fit the bill as being worse I personally believe the manager should be judged on his best signings than his worst signings. As the previous poster said, every manager buys some junk. I however believe that MON's best Villa signings are far better from Houllier's best Liverpool signings. I'm only going from memory though and am open to be convinced otherwise. They would probably be Hyppia, Henchoz, Babbel, Hamman and McAllister Something else I'd forgotten, he didn't really rate Brad Friedel, he signed Sander Westerveld in his first season there and Friedel was given a free transfer after a couple of years of being clearly second choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'd of thought if Staunton is coming in as 1st team coach that will be Kev Macs choice as I doubt Randy/Faulkner/The General have identified Staunton as a man to help take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadoftrinity Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 He won some trophys though and took over a pretty poor side. He can sign all the shit players he wants for Villa I you ask me if he wins 6 throphys and leaves the next manager a team that wins the Champions League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 popular rumour is that Houlier initiated the Baros\Carew swap - take note Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HJ Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 He won some trophys though and took over a pretty poor side. A side that had just finished 3rd and had young Owen, Gerrard and Carragher coming through, how is that poor? The only truly class player he added to those was Hyypia and then rode their backs to a few cup victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm still hopeful the fact it has already taken the best part of 4 weeks ( and will more than likely take at least a few days more ) points towards us securing the services of a manager currently in work. I have confidence that the profile of the club with its immense history and the fact we have re-established ourselves as a top 6 club, with three consecutive top 6 finishes, will be enough to turn the heads of either Jol, Hughes, McLeish or even Moyes. These are all managers with a fair but of experience behind them but you sense a strong desire to achieve and are the right age in terms of building something over the medium - long term and who with decent backing could bring success. The club is at the moment crying out for someone who can inspire and bring us all together. I just don't see the likes of MacDonald, Houllier or Curbishley doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tismyk Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Houlier and or Staunton would be the biggest Fuk Up since Venglos and McNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Staunton just watched us play for Shenstone earlier, and he said that not a soul at Villa had contacted him about coming on board, and basically it was all bollox regarding him........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I agree tismyk, whats going on here? We started off this process with reports of Jol and Klinsmann and now were in a situation whereby we're scratching around for any sort of manager at all. Staunton is a laughable idea, and whilst i wouldnt be against Houllier coming in as DOF, this whole thing stinks of indecision by the board. We need a manager, simple as that, otherwise the players will lose all confidence in the club. I am 100% against the idea of some 3 way management team and am now at the point where I'd happily take a figure such as Sven so long as it meant we actually had a confirmed manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Who the hell started the Staunton rumour? Who started the DOF rumour? Why are people flipping out about rumours from the media? People just want something to moan about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 ill eat my own face if we appoint houllier i think it will prove to be a huge mistake. Were supposedly meant to be building a new dynasty yet Houllier is 60+ and has a heart problem, he hasnt managed at club level for years and his transfer record doesnt enstil me with confidence either i dont want him to sign alot of moody french mercenaries like Nzogbia who i think would be the first player he would sign if he became our manager. People are raving about his achievements at liverpool but look at the players he had at his disposal at the time Michael Owen was in the form of his life had a young and hungry carragher and Steven Gerrard at Villa the core of the squad is english i dont think they would respond well to a foreign manager taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 ill eat my own face if we appoint houllier i think it will prove to be a huge mistake. Were supposedly meant to be building a new dynasty yet Houllier is 60+ and has a heart problem, he hasnt managed at club level for years and his transfer record doesnt enstil me with confidence either i dont want him to sign alot of moody french mercenaries like Nzogbia who i think would be the first player he would sign if he became our manager. People are raving about his achievements at liverpool but look at the players he had at his disposal at the time Michael Owen was in the form of his life had a young and hungry carragher and Steven Gerrard at Villa the core of the squad is english i dont think they would respond well to a foreign manager taking over. Yet people are happy to have Sven be manager at 62? Houllier has been fine for 9 years, he isn't walking around like he is about to die....You people talk like he is on deaths door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 I'm fed up of it all now. Regardless of who it is i wish they'd just get on with it now and make the appointment. It's becoming a bit of a soap opera zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Stop dithering and make a bloody decision. Either way from all the names mentioned to be interviwed none of them inspire me. We are in few a few seasons of what can be best described as ...transition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracker1234 Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 AshVilla who would you like to be the manager.......If you say a manager that is currently in work....What if we can't get managers currently in work, who would you like to be the manager then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fran_villa Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 i just think he's shite,and the style of football his teams play is crap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted September 4, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2010 I would imagine Houllier is fitter and in better shape than he was 10 years ago due to his illness. He looks to have lost a lot of weight so people concerned with his health are just looking for an excuse to moan IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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