theboyangel Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, Eastie said: If there were a clause it would be resolved Only if city paid it , maybe they think they can knock down the price . with no release clause I don’t see why villa don’t make it clear Jack is not for sale end of story . Totally agree - but we cannot knock back something that hasn’t happened yet. if city haven’t made any contact why would the club make any comment about Jack’s future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Seeing a lot of neutral fans saying how toxic we are as a fanbase, only saw this from local fans but maybe that's influence of social media and its role in football. Pretty sure it's a minority though. I just hope he doesn't get booed if he does leave (Obviously don't want him to leave). Would be nice if we booed him just for bantz like how Man Utd fans did with Beckham's return but they still showed him love. He'll forever be one of my favourite, if not absolute favourite Villa player of all time, can't begrudge him a move at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanVilla Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: I think from a Villa point of view we’ve been effectively in decline for 25 years now we’ve flirted with competing under O'Neil but it’s been up and down and most recently down. We’ve watched as clubs like Chelsea & City have sugar daddies come and they’ve supplanted us in the pecking order. We nearly went under 3 years ago after 5 years of absolute shit while the league had boomed to allow others like Spurs and Leicester become sizeable clubs. We’ve missed out on that and the average football fan seems to only take the last couple of seasons into account so they consider us as small. we know that we’re a big club, players who come here always remark upon “I didn’t realise how big it was until I got there” so in our heads we’re still one of the traditional big boys. But the average fan doesn’t see it that way and they call us delusional etc and it goads us massively Meanwhile we’ve turned around and can genuinely hope again to get back to a position where we’ve historically occupied that of one of the top 6 clubs. Because of the hope it’s what makes this so much worse, we’re scared by that last 10 years as a fan base we can’t have it again I know we’d make it through it if it happened but we just can’t bear the thought of selling our best players again and not having our turn of putting the last 25 years right and reasserting ourselves as a big club. Jack is more than a player he’s very much a symbol of that for many fans IMO Spot on Fairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Totally agree - but we cannot knock back something that hasn’t happened yet. if city haven’t made any contact why would the club make any comment about Jack’s future? Jack is aware of all this speculation - would have been nice for him to put out a one line comment along the lines of ‘ looking forward to getting back to villa next week and an exciting season ahead “ - not gonna happen though . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, supermon said: Seeing a lot of neutral fans saying how toxic we are as a fanbase, only saw this from local fans but maybe that's influence of social media and its role in football. Pretty sure it's a minority though. I just hope he doesn't get booed if he does leave (Obviously don't want him to leave). Would be nice if we booed him just for bantz like how Man Utd fans did with Beckham's return but they still showed him love. He'll forever be one of my favourite, if not absolute favourite Villa player of all time, can't begrudge him a move at all. No doubt there would be some who would boo him , some who’d maybe acknowledge him and some who would just ignore him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, supermon said: Seeing a lot of neutral fans saying how toxic we are as a fanbase, only saw this from local fans but maybe that's influence of social media and its role in football. Pretty sure it's a minority though. I just hope he doesn't get booed if he does leave (Obviously don't want him to leave). Would be nice if we booed him just for bantz like how Man Utd fans did with Beckham's return but they still showed him love. He'll forever be one of my favourite, if not absolute favourite Villa player of all time, can't begrudge him a move at all. When a player signs a 5yr contract and says he's totally on board with the owners vision and then just a year later asks to leave, and, if that is the scenario, then, you can see why some would begrudge him a move. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Have to agree - Twitter has brought football fans to such a low level, desperate for information and believing any morsel offering insight. The contact between fan bases has gone beyond light hearted banter into generating petty rivalries - the only winners are the shitehawk media who lap this up and regurgitate it over and over again. im becoming disillusioned with the whole thing to be fair To be honest it’s not just football fans , Twitter has become a vile place for lowlife cowards to hide behind a keyboard spouting threats and abuse at people 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Tumblerseven said: This is just depressing i can already see how much hate and abuse from our fans Jack will get if he will leave. I don't think he will leave. Loves the Villa too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanVilla Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, supermon said: Seeing a lot of neutral fans saying how toxic we are as a fanbase, only saw this from local fans but maybe that's influence of social media and its role in football. Pretty sure it's a minority though. I just hope he doesn't get booed if he does leave (Obviously don't want him to leave). Would be nice if we booed him just for bantz like how Man Utd fans did with Beckham's return but they still showed him love. He'll forever be one of my favourite, if not absolute favourite Villa player of all time, can't begrudge him a move at all. The toxicity happens to every club tbh. This was from an 8 year old Villa fan getting stick from City fans because he got Grealish on the back of his shirt. and there’s no way if Grealish leaves at the worst time in the NSWE project he should be lauded a hero… he’d of screwed us over for a couple of trophies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think it is fair that Jack talks to City. Just to see what they are offering. Villa need to match it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Salad Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) It just amazes me all these cough 'fans' on Twitter before this 'speculation' started worshipped the ground Jack walked on and now fast forward a bit and they now despise him. Immature,classless, and reflects badly on the real Villa fans. Edited July 30, 2021 by Big Salad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Totally agree - but we cannot knock back something that hasn’t happened yet. if city haven’t made any contact why would the club make any comment about Jack’s future? Exactly, on sky just the headline is Man City open talks with Villa for the transfer of Jack, which in all likeliness consists of email arriving at Villa and has been ignored. I've tried to have a good laugh about it all and tried to inject a little humour. Seeing the same people on here going over the same ground day after day is plain silly. Posters from off topic constantly looking down their noses at these posters and creating an us and them (they, as on topic people are known as) is just plain silly too. Would be horrible if football forums went the same way as social media and it all became just as toxic. If Jack stays it's brilliant for the club and I think that scenario is favourite just now but if it did happen and he left then Villa will still be here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: I think from a Villa point of view we’ve been effectively in decline for 25 years now we’ve flirted with competing under O'Neil but it’s been up and down and most recently down. We’ve watched as clubs like Chelsea & City have sugar daddies come and they’ve supplanted us in the pecking order. We nearly went under 3 years ago after 5 years of absolute shit while the league had boomed to allow others like Spurs and Leicester become sizeable clubs. We’ve missed out on that and the average football fan seems to only take the last couple of seasons into account so they consider us as small. we know that we’re a big club, players who come here always remark upon “I didn’t realise how big it was until I got there” so in our heads we’re still one of the traditional big boys. But the average fan doesn’t see it that way and they call us delusional etc and it goads us massively Meanwhile we’ve turned around and can genuinely hope again to get back to a position where we’ve historically occupied that of one of the top 6 clubs. Because of the hope it’s what makes this so much worse, we’re scared by that last 10 years as a fan base we can’t have it again I know we’d make it through it if it happened but we just can’t bear the thought of selling our best players again and not having our turn of putting the last 25 years right and reasserting ourselves as a big club. Jack is more than a player he’s very much a symbol of that for many fans IMO This 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, cb_82 said: But I maintain what I say, plenty would be lapping it up if it was positive towards Villa, fans are desperate for transfer news - Its the sky jim white yellow tie brigade that have taken it to a new level of hype The only Villa man to listen to is Percy Percy has been very quiet on the Jack stuff. As we all know, he only deals in facts and doesn’t deal with speculation. This can only be a good thing. It simply means a decision has not been made yet. Nobody knows what’s going on here. It could even be that Villa want to sell him if they can achieve an astronomical price. I don’t think that’s the case at all but like I say, absolutely no decision has been made yet on his future and I imagine we’ll know more on Sunday night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Danishlad said: I think it is fair that Jack talks to City. Just to see what they are offering. Villa need to match it. So if city offer him £300k villa need to match it? No way would be be paying him that - it would be madness and imagine the disparity In wages amongst the squad - we do not have the income of city - by all means offer him a new deal but let’s be honest we cannot match whatever city can pay him ,and nor do we need to do so , he still has 4 years left on his deal Edited July 30, 2021 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp999 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eastie said: Jack is aware of all this speculation - would have been nice for him to put out a one line comment along the lines of ‘ looking forward to getting back to villa next week and an exciting season ahead “ - not gonna happen though . It would - but if, as I hope, this is all his agent creating the possibility of him leaving to get a huge new contract out of villa, he can't come out and say he's staying just yet - that would lose his leverage in any contract negotiations. My take is he never was leaving, but wants a new contract close to what fellow England stars have at thier clubs. Best way to get that is for his agent to convince the villa owners he is minutes away from joining City ; villa come back with their very best offer to keep him. Jack signs and buys a new range rover. Every week. I don't think he's going, it's a new contract he wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Percy has been very quiet on the Jack stuff. As we all know, he only deals in facts and doesn’t deal with speculation. This can only be a good thing. It simply means a decision has not been made yet. Nobody knows what’s going on here. It could even be that Villa want to sell him if they can achieve an astronomical price. I don’t think that’s the case at all but like I say, absolutely no decision has been made yet on his future and I imagine we’ll know more on Sunday night. I don’t think you will need to wait that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 If Levy can keep an unsettled 28 yr old Kane after a gentleman’s agreement then NSWE can keep a settled 25 yr old Jack Grealish with 4 years left to run 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I think he will stay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 If I was jack and I saw Villa fans turning on me… it would make me not want to leave. Not that fans should be turning on him but inevitable they will… but yeah I’d hate that if I was him and it would make me stay. But that’s me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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