fran_villa Posted June 22, 2010 Share Posted June 22, 2010 Roger Johnson I'd rather have Carragher (and I think he's shit)id rather a kick in the cock than watch a blue play.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 People do blame the players, PV. I don't believe out managers ever get enough blame. Taking Carragher/King and actually starting them is just, well.. what CBs would you have taken? Jagielka or Cahill. I like how he took 5 CBs because even he knew King would be a waste of time, who'd have thought King would get injured eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Well done the 19 people who guessed USA would top the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleBromVilla Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I don't want us to have a big win, comfortable, controlled but I want it to be a challange and I want us to be tested because I don't think we will be in our other two group games. I don't want us to thrash the US side and for everyone to get carried away, put the boys under more pressure and then us not play a decent side again to the Quarter Final as I think I know what would happen. Or you could end up with 4 points from the group and go out. Yea, it's not going to happen. You keep wishing though. You're right actually. It's hardly being arrogant to say that England will qualify comfortably. I'd say that was quite an arrogant attitude, yes. It isn't Jon. explain why. there is a world of difference between "will" and "should", and therein lies the arrogance. If you'd rather sit on the fence by saying we should qualify, then fair enough. I'd say it was pretty obvious we should qualify. We will qualify from that group. Oh, so we can't qualify anymore? Shame, I was under the impression its still in our hands and win in the week will see us through? Whatever man. Those posts, in light of how the World Cup has gone for England, make you look like a clearing in the woods, no matter what the result against Slovenia is. I'm just hedging my bets now in case England do qualify. Couldnt care less what they make me look like. I know you're desperate for England to crash and burn, but it's not happened just yet. Come back on Wednesday night and we'll see how things have gone though. Nevermind yillan, keep your fingers crossed we fall at the next hurdle. Come on England! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 So any less than 9 points on that basis is unacceptable. I guess you're pretty pissed then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Well done the 19 people who guessed USA would top the group. Well done to the 19 people who guessed Rob Green is shite and will throw one in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 USA will now get Ghana followed by South Korea or Uruguay. England will meet Germany next, then likely Argentina, followed by Brazil. And people say topping the group isn't essential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 USA will now get Ghana followed by South Korea or Uruguay. England will meet Germany next, then likely Argentina, followed by Brazil. And people say topping the group isn't essential? SK and Uruguay are both very strong and would give any team a difficult game. At this point, every team can win if things fall in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 USA will now get Ghana followed by South Korea or Uruguay. England will meet Germany next, then likely Argentina, followed by Brazil. And people say topping the group isn't essential? Not likely Brazil to till the final if they top there group, more likely Germany, Argentina, Spain or Italy then Brazil, if by some miracle we reach the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claret75 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 USA will now get Ghana followed by South Korea or Uruguay. England will meet Germany next, then likely Argentina, followed by Brazil. And people say topping the group isn't essential? SK and Uruguay are both very strong and would give any team a difficult game. At this point, every team can win if things fall in place. They're all going to be good sides, but S Korea and Uruguay aren't as good as Germany and Argentina. We'd probably meet Spain in the semi, if we got there as well, tougher than Brazil imo. USA, Korea, Uruguay, Ghana have all got a great chance of reaching the semi's in that half of the draw. Out of those teams i fancy Uruguay or the US, probably Uruguay. I know which half i'd rather be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 If England got to the semis by beating Germany and Argentina then they shouldn't have a problem stopping Spain. Argentina is arguably a tougher test because Englands defenders will get destroyed by the pace and skill of Messi/Aguero/Tevez/Higuain and Mascherano is capable of keeping Rooney quiet, which means the best way to beat them is to attack them and I don't think that is wise at all considering your defence. Spain on the other hand although they play lovely stuff, if you get up and at 'em and kick the shit out of Xavi you've done most of the hard work. Brazil on the other hand are incredibly hard to break down, and the hardest team to stop from probing and finding space to exploit as everyone in their team can pop up with a goal. They'll win the tournement IMO, unless Argentina prove they can defend or Spain find some balls. Or maybe even if England decide to play to their potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 USA will now get Ghana followed by South Korea or Uruguay. England will meet Germany next, then likely Argentina, followed by Brazil. And people say topping the group isn't essential? SK and Uruguay are both very strong and would give any team a difficult game. At this point, every team can win if things fall in place. They're all going to be good sides, but S Korea and Uruguay aren't as good as Germany and Argentina. We'd probably meet Spain in the semi, if we got there as well, tougher than Brazil imo. USA, Korea, Uruguay, Ghana have all got a great chance of reaching the semi's in that half of the draw. Out of those teams i fancy Uruguay or the US, probably Uruguay. I know which half i'd rather be in. Fair point, I can't say I'm not pleased. I'll be out of my mind if USA makes it to the semifinals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 So one of USA, Ghana,South Korea or Uruguay will defo be in the semis then? Can you imagine, we beat Germany on Sunday, Argentina in the quarters, Spain in the semis, and then lose to Korea in the final... Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Ozil looked like he had a slight injury at the end of the game, and I think Schweinsteiger has done his hamstring so is about 50/50 to be ready for Sunday's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Was Klose's ban 1 game or 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Just 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Guess what in the World Cup to date for England, Villa players are the only two who have assisted the goals!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted June 24, 2010 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2010 We have to hope that somebody else knocks Brazil out if we are to get that far, I really can't look past them for winning the WC. Finishing second has probably killed our chances though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 unfortunately rino its same old england. one of teh easiest groups in histoy and we just scrap through. its really quite poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggyrichard Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 I really cant believe how negative this forum is! Its a marathon not a sprint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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