villa89 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, PaulC said: Anyway team announced. Wood, woakes and moeen all in for Pope. Anderson and Tongue. Looks a better balanced attack and a bit more depth to the batting Could be the end of Anderson. Age and injuries finally catching up with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, bobzy said: You're struggling with it. I'll go for the break down: Australia didn't cheat at Lords Some of the Australian squad currently partaking in the Ashes are known cheats. 1 hour ago, mottaloo said: Exactly. Be it a pocket of dirt in Atherton's pocket; rubbing the saliva from a bowler who'd been sucking on a boiled sweet on the ball; bowlers getting extra shine on a ball from rubbing it on the thigh of the trouser that had been heavily sprayed with deodorant just before they came on to the pitch; digging fingernails into the ball to scratch up more roughness; sandpaper....and so on...I've played in teams who've done all that and more. It happens, by both sides. So you think roughing up the one side of the ball with sandpaper is OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 2 hours ago, PaulC said: So you think roughing up the one side of the ball with sandpaper is OK? If you're asking me, then no I don't think it is right but it goes on. Dark arts, call it what you will but there it is....a step up from sledging in my book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 hours ago, villa89 said: Could be the end of Anderson. Age and injuries finally catching up with him No way. He'll be back for old Trafford, was only ever going to play 3. Hes still class, has bowled well but not got wickets and the Edgbaston pitch didn't suit him. Also came in off an injury. To easy to declare him past it all of a sudden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 4 hours ago, mottaloo said: If you're asking me, then no I don't think it is right but it goes on. Dark arts, call it what you will but there it is....a step up from sledging in my book. I dint think you can put sand paper in the same camp as dark arts. That is cheating, you are taking an implement onto the pitch. It's a bit different to roughing up the ball with finger nails and saliva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 8 hours ago, bobzy said: You're struggling with it. I'll go for the break down: Australia didn't cheat at Lords Some of the Australian squad currently partaking in the Ashes are known cheats. Then why not stop whinging about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, cheltenham_villa said: No way. He'll be back for old Trafford, was only ever going to play 3. Hes still class, has bowled well but not got wickets and the Edgbaston pitch didn't suit him. Also came in off an injury. To easy to declare him past it all of a sudden. Yes but he's 41 this month and if woakss, Wood and Robinson bowl England to victory at Headingly then you can't just bring him back for Old Trafford because of his great past record. Edited July 5, 2023 by PaulC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 5, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 5, 2023 Carey is going to have a big target on that green helmet tomorrow if Australia bat. I wonder how he's sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Carey is going to have a big target on that green helmet tomorrow if Australia bat. I wonder how he's sleeping. 90mph bouncers from mark wood…… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 7 hours ago, PaulC said: Yes but he's 41 this month and if woakss, Wood and Robinson bowl England to victory at Headingly then you can't just bring him back for Old Trafford because of his great past record. Anderson would come in for either Broad or Robinson in that scenario I think. They'll have both had three tests in a row. Probably Robinson tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 With that tail I'll at least feel a bit more confident of us actually scoring some runs once Bairstow and Stokes are both down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I think Tongue is a bit unfortunate to miss out with Robinson continuing. I suppose his (Tongue's) injury problems over the last couple of years may have something to do with it. Glad to see a shorter tail - probably get skittled now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 couple of runs outs as the non receiver walks down the crease , repeated bouncers to the head and loudly appeal every catch and lbw even though we know they aren't even close give the cheating rocket polishers something to moan about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 England need to channel the frustration and play the match, not the occasion today. Last chance saloon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Win the toss and bowl. Come on England let's get at them and set the tone of the test. The ashes needs an engkand win or last two tests dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, PaulC said: Win the toss and bowl. Come on England let's get at them and set the tone of the test. The ashes needs an engkand win or last two tests dead. Three times now we've won the toss. Let's hope they get this one right. Uphill battle now being 2 down though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 great start from Broad...bye bye Warner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Robinson opening strange choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, PaulC said: Robinson opening strange choice Yes very slow for an opener. Great start though, missed the wicket though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Yes very slow for an opener. Great start though, missed the wicket though To me Robinson is a first or second change bowler and Woakes a new ball bowler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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