Xela Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Leganes have been **** over big time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Anyone else see the Espanyol fans in town today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Leganes now have lost a massive 6 pointer to 10 man Celta Vigo to end a miserable week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Leganes reportedly denied permission to sign a player to replace Braithwaite. Yet if he was injured for 5+ months they'd have been allowed. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, penguin said: Leganes reportedly denied permission to sign a player to replace Braithwaite. Yet if he was injured for 5+ months they'd have been allowed. Ridiculous. They were joking the manager will go to training ground and hit some player with a hammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Sergio Ramos has 262 career yellow cards now. Its pretty impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, Zatman said: Sergio Ramos has 262 career yellow cards now. Its pretty impressive That’s incredible! 26/27 ish reds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Real payed something like £25m to Sevilla for him in 2005 and he's still got to be one of the best pieces of transfer business ever along with Buffon to Juve from Parma. What a career he's had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Bit of a crisis in Barcelona where 6 board members have resigned and are calling for a new presidential election trying to oust Bartomeu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Not surprised, barca are a mess, the top quality they have, the big name signings, the titles wins, all papering over the cracks, they've spunked so much money up the wall, owe half of Europe payments, have a huge wage bill and paper thin squad, he's been terrible They have some good young players coming through and need another laporta style revolution and pep style clear out, always underrated what pep did to that world class team he inherited, can you imagine someone coming in now and bombing out pique, alba, vidal maybe even rakitic and suarez, dare you it... Messi... and then promoting fati, miranda, junior firpo, wague, puig and ruiz That's what they need to do, pep did it before but because the names of the youngsters all went on to be household names it sounded easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Barca wasted so much money since selling Neymar. Dembele, Griezmann and Coutinho alone cost about 350-375 million. Even De Jong hasnt looked comfortable. They got lazy and had no plan of action just that any signing would click with Messi and if not Messi will bail them out still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 They'll have a season or two of 6th-7th when Messi really declines or even leaves. Can see it coming a mile off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 There was always going to be a decline with several of their key players getting old. I think it was already there before they signed Suarez but he gave them a big boost and was their last really good signing IMO. Never replaced Neymar either. Liverpool did well out of Coutinho sale. Griezmann could work out but he’s not that young anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted April 10, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, VillaChris said: They'll have a season or two of 6th-7th when Messi really declines or even leaves. Can see it coming a mile off. Yes a decline (unless they really do sort their shit out) but 6th-7th? No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Troglodyte said: Yes a decline (unless they really do sort their shit out) but 6th-7th? No chance. I can remember them finishing there the odd occasion in the recent past, around 2002 when Van Gaal came back and they were about 14th in January. Think they missed out on europe that season. Real Madrid finished 5th or 6th in 2000 season. They still had fantastic players playing for them in that period. Depends on how strong likes of Sevilla and Valencia are around that time. Also likely that Atletico Madrid will drop off when Simeone leaves but with Real Madrid that's a potential top 4. Think it's comparable to Man. United never finishing below 3rd in 20 odd years under Fergie. Now look at how regularly they finish 6-7th in the 7 years since he's been gone. Edited April 10, 2020 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Barcelona havent finished below 6th since World War 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted April 10, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2020 They're still better than that though. Even if Atleti stayed strong and Sevilla and Valencia pushed on ahead of them, you still need another club on top of that to outperform them for them to sink to sixth. In many respects they need a bit of a reset, and they've been mismanaged (at boardroom level) horrendously, but I'd still be surprised to see them fall out of the Champions League places. Hopefully for them, they'll look to La Masia a bit more again now, although equally they're not just going to reproduce what they had under Pep by doing that. They had some once-in-a-generation players come through then. If they build around the likes of Frenkie de Jong though, they should be fine. Once there's a new board, it won't be too long before Xavi comes in, which should give the club a major boost and help them to reprioritise. I do hope they don't force Setién out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, VillaChris said: Think it's comparable to Man. United never finishing below 3rd in 20 odd years under Fergie. Now look at how regularly they finish 6-7th in the 7 years since he's been gone. Nah. Barcelona have to compete against Real Madrid in terms of budget. United are up against other economic powerhouses like Liverpool, Chelsea & Manchester City, and even a lot of the upper mid table Premier League clubs can throw money at players they want to get them. It's just not like that in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 16 hours ago, PaulC said: There was always going to be a decline with several of their key players getting old. I think it was already there before they signed Suarez but he gave them a big boost and was their last really good signing IMO. Never replaced Neymar either. Liverpool did well out of Coutinho sale. Griezmann could work out but he’s not that young anymore. Griezmann is the kind of player you get if you don't already have Messi as he can do what Griezmann does plus a whole load more. Alves is still a huge miss for them, they haven't had the same balance since he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 15 hours ago, The_Rev said: Nah. Barcelona have to compete against Real Madrid in terms of budget. United are up against other economic powerhouses like Liverpool, Chelsea & Manchester City, and even a lot of the upper mid table Premier League clubs can throw money at players they want to get them. It's just not like that in Spain. If you look at Barca's results though they are pretty average away from home in La Liga aswell as europe. This season they've lost at Bilbao, Granada, Levante, Valencia and Real Madrid and drawn a few more. Think they've only won 5 away games all season in the league and that's with Messi in team for majority. Reason they keep finishing top 2 is they're near invincible at Camp Nou winning 17/18 a season which kicks their points total ticking over. Messi so many times just whips a free kick into the top corner from 25 yards and decides the game so it gets into away teams head. This season they've failed to only win once at home in league and that was the 0-0 with Real Madrid so they still have that aura even if they've been pretty average in their play. Take him away and think Barca would start dropping loads more points at home and so fall into the pack below. Add in they have been picking usually underwhelming managers ever since Pep left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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