Atairos - new minority owners of Villa

[sidcow]

11 minutes ago, wishywashy said:

I think. Unfortunately, the documents are in French.

Merde. 

[ender4]

22 minutes ago, wishywashy said:

The filings of the V Sports companies on the Luxembourg Business Register indicate that Atairos have taken up a 21.2% stake (255,500 out of the 1,200,000 shares) in V Sports GP Sarl, the newly formed ultimate parent company (as if we needed MORE). Sawiris and Edens evenly split the remaining shares, so they have 39.4% each.

That’s very interesting to know thanks. 

[DaveAV1]

11 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Merde. 

Paul Merde our former midfielder you mean????

[OutByEaster?]

1 hour ago, wishywashy said:

The filings of the V Sports companies on the Luxembourg Business Register indicate that Atairos have taken up a 21.2% stake (255,500 out of the 1,200,000 shares) in V Sports GP Sarl, the newly formed ultimate parent company (as if we needed MORE). Sawiris and Edens evenly split the remaining shares, so they have 39.4% each.

Thank you  - are those documents publicly available to view?

[Stevo985]

On 14/04/2024 at 16:24, Pottervillan said:

Hoping with the links to sky that next season we get appointed our "own" VAR official to help when we need a dodgy decision. 

You mean like goalline technology not working for the first time ever?

Edited April 16 by Stevo985

[wishywashy]

20 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Thank you  - are those documents publicly available to view?

Yes, through Trade and Company Register on the Luxembourg Business Register:

https://www.lbr.lu/mjrcs/jsp/IndexActionNotSecured.action?time=1713299140518&loop=1

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OFFERED SERVICES
Search for an RCS file

You'll have to connect as an anonymous user on the top left before you can search for a filing.

[chrisvilla4]

1 hour ago, DaveAV1 said:

Paul Merde our former midfielder you mean????

Remi merde. Which is French for sh*t

[mottaloo]

On 13/04/2024 at 09:27, tinker said:

There in it for the long term, experts in marketing, close connections with Heck. This is big news, as big as Emery signing especially for the long term future of us competing at the top of the game and getting more influence over the powers that be (sky)

New ground, not quite yet, we need all our income to go into the team until we , with their help, can increase our income. 

Watch for some land purchases in the area over the next 6-12 months. (From a holding company)

Holte End Holdings Ltd ? CEO Ian Buckells ?

[OutByEaster?]

36 minutes ago, wishywashy said:

Yes, through Trade and Company Register on the Luxembourg Business Register:

https://www.lbr.lu/mjrcs/jsp/IndexActionNotSecured.action?time=1713299140518&loop=1

You'll have to connect as an anonymous user on the top left before you can search for a filing.

Got in but couldn't find V Sports or V Sports GP Sarl on the search. 

[wishywashy]

2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

Got in but couldn't find V Sports or V Sports GP Sarl on the search. 

The RCS Numbers are B226546 for V Sports SCS and B282877 for the GP Sarl one: maybe searching it using that will work?

[JAMAICAN-VILLAN]

3 hours ago, wishywashy said:

The filings of the V Sports companies on the Luxembourg Business Register indicate that Atairos have taken up a 21.2% stake (255,500 out of the 1,200,000 shares) in V Sports GP Sarl, the newly formed ultimate parent company (as if we needed MORE). Sawiris and Edens evenly split the remaining shares, so they have 39.4% each.

I think. Unfortunately, the documents are in French.

So it's a substantial stake then... No small matter.

Didn't Manchester City get similar strategic investment from a Chinese Media firm at some point in their development too?

Edit: Indeed they did, in 2015... In their parent company. Big moves!

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A consortium led by private equity groups China Media Capital and CITIC Capital will pay $400m for the stake in City Football Group, which also owns Melbourne City and New York City football clubs, and is a minority shareholder in Japan's Yokohama F. Marinos.

 

Edited April 16 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN

[Tomaszk]

1 hour ago, wishywashy said:

Yes, through Trade and Company Register on the Luxembourg Business Register:

https://www.lbr.lu/mjrcs/jsp/IndexActionNotSecured.action?time=1713299140518&loop=1

You'll have to connect as an anonymous user on the top left before you can search for a filing.

Magnificent sleuthing.

Bravo.

[Pongo Waring]

Is this a good thing or bad thing?

[wishywashy]

18 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

Magnificent sleuthing.

Bravo.

I might be a bit of a nerd.

[Tomaszk]

2 minutes ago, wishywashy said:

I might be a bit of a nerd.

Hold on friend. Take a look at my coefficient work in the Champions League thread.

 

[MotoMkali]

On 13/04/2024 at 16:08, HanoiVillan said:

These companies provide index funds, and as a result own large proportions of essentially every listed company in America. They have essentially no active involvement in the running of those companies. 

That's not actually really true. Because they own such significant parts of these companies they actually often use their voting shares to force collusion between companies. You know like a cartel.

[MotoMkali]

1 hour ago, Pongo Waring said:

Is this a good thing or bad thing?

50/50

In terms of the short term definitely a good thing, more wealth in the ownership group means more likely to spend to the absolute limit consistently.

Plus this money seems to be for a major infrastructure project, likely a new ground, where that is, we don't know nor do we know. Perhaps it might be rebuilt on the villa park site or next door. But that's speculation. 

Long Term, well if we have a new ground and a variety of associated businesses in the surrounding area, plus can host more concerts (perhaps with a closeable roof like in Madrid) we'll be able to make significantly more revenue. On the other hand they are an investment company and likely won't stand for losing money. So it may dampen how willing to spend the group is in the long term though if the growth is big enough, they'd still be willing to invest. In Atairos' case it might be even slightly more unique due to their connections to comcast where the growth of the prem as a whole is enough to maintain the investment. We will see. 

[maqroll]

17 minutes ago, MotoMkali said:

50/50

In terms of the short term definitely a good thing, more wealth in the ownership group means more likely to spend to the absolute limit consistently.

Plus this money seems to be for a major infrastructure project, likely a new ground, where that is, we don't know nor do we know. Perhaps it might be rebuilt on the villa park site or next door. But that's speculation. 

Long Term, well if we have a new ground and a variety of associated businesses in the surrounding area, plus can host more concerts (perhaps with a closeable roof like in Madrid) we'll be able to make significantly more revenue. On the other hand they are an investment company and likely won't stand for losing money. So it may dampen how willing to spend the group is in the long term though if the growth is big enough, they'd still be willing to invest. In Atairos' case it might be even slightly more unique due to their connections to comcast where the growth of the prem as a whole is enough to maintain the investment. We will see. 

It should be noted that Atairos is backed (massively) by Comcast, which owns NBC, which has the broadcast rights to the Premier League in the U.S., on a deal through 2027. This is a potentially huge aspect to all of this. Not only do they want the league to succeed as a "product", but they'll want to back their own horse (Villa) to challenge at the very top. 

[HanoiVillan]

1 hour ago, MotoMkali said:

That's not actually really true. Because they own such significant parts of these companies they actually often use their voting shares to force collusion between companies. You know like a cartel.

I don't think that's true, but regardless we're getting off-topic anyway. 

[Vive_La_Villa]

5 hours ago, maqroll said:

It should be noted that Atairos is backed (massively) by Comcast, which owns NBC, which has the broadcast rights to the Premier League in the U.S., on a deal through 2027. This is a potentially huge aspect to all of this. Not only do they want the league to succeed as a "product", but they'll want to back their own horse (Villa) to challenge at the very top. 

Don’t they own Sky too?