fightoffyour Posted April 18 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: The loss of the extra CL place for Prem was a blip this season Just 'cause I love CoFC, two posts above yours I hypothesise that 5th place is, in fact, not lost yet: 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: Villa draw tonight and go through, West Ham draw and go out, Liverpool win but go out => (1 + 1 + 1 + 2)/8 = 0.625 points, leaving England 0.017 points behind Germany. Villa get a win, a draw, and go through the SFs and, of course, win the final => (2 + 1 + 1 + 2)/8 = 0.75 points. The German teams all go out in the semis with one win plus a loss (Leverkusen), one win plus a loss (Bayern), and draw plus a loss (Dortmund) => (2 + 2 + 1)/7 = 0.714 points. Totals: England 18.375, Germany 18.357 Even with a West Ham loss tonight if you can lose a point for one of those German teams' results then the totals would be: England 18.250, Germany 18.214. Hardly an unrealistic set of circumstances, but as ever we'll know a lot more in about 12 hours. If the above plays out though we'll have to throw the ECL final to stop Spurs qualifying Edited April 18 by fightoffyour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeyAnty Posted April 18 Popular Post Share Posted April 18 Id take 4pts now if u gave it to me for Bournemouth and Chelsea games 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 18 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18 Just now, HeyAnty said: Id take 4pts now if u gave it to me for Bournemouth and Chelsea games Oh 100% We'd probably only need one more win from there to take 4th, imo. And we'd still have 3 games to go, two of them very winnable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: Id take 4pts now if u gave it to me for Bournemouth and Chelsea games That would be on track for 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Top 5 being enough for Villa to be in the Champions League ahead of two winnable home games to pretty much seal top 5 would have been too easy. Villa never do it the easy way. Promotion, staying up on the last day when we looked dead and buried, Europe last season. This will go down to the last day where a win against Palace will mean we finish top four. Spurs will be 3-0 up after 30 minutes against Sheff Utd and we will anxiously be waiting for Villa to take the lead. Already mentally preparing myself for a penalty shoot out tonight! Edited April 18 by RichW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Something out of Villa’s control didn’t fall in to Villa’s hands, oh well back to relying on what they can actually do to affect their fate. Out point Spurs, job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I reckon anything over 70 will be plenty. Spurs not likely to get more. But as everyone says, important to get those on the board sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 17 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: Id take 4pts now if u gave it to me for Bournemouth and Chelsea games Same. 6 points is extremely optimistic, a win and a draw would do nicely. Would still leave us 7 points ahead of Spurs before they play their next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: If we end up 5th sporting wise the Europa League is a better competition next season as there are no CL sides dropping into it. So surely we'd be amongst the favourites to win it. Also if we can make the final of The ECL we'll have a decent enough seeding for Europa. The loss of the extra CL place for Prem was a blip this season most seasons there will be 5 and with Europa we'll have an opportunity to win that and qualify. 5th and Europa League of that's what it ends up as is progression. Sporting fate robbed it of being CL qualification this year but of we get to 70 points whatever happens that's a huge achievement with the injury problems we've had. I worry a little this summer about the finances but seeing how Rogers has turned out so far is encouraging in terms of recruitment. While a season with Ramsey, Mings and Buendia back fit would be welcome boost. Duran is progressing too. Yeah great way of looking at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) double post Edited April 18 by omariqy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Scenes in this thread when Coefficient FC are back on track after a 0-4 Liverpool win, a huge 4-1 win for West Ham and a squeaky bum time 2-2 draw for Villa. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 18 VT Supporter Share Posted April 18 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bobzy said: Scenes in this thread when Coefficient FC are back on track after a 0-4 Liverpool win, a huge 4-1 win for West Ham and a squeaky bum time 2-2 draw for Villa. Everyone else has given up so I'll be back with some calculations later Edited April 18 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Gun to your bum... Win tonight or win Sunday, dun dun dun! I'm going tonight, give me a goddam trophy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fightoffyour Posted April 18 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 18 10 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: Gun to your bum... Win tonight or win Sunday, dun dun dun! I'm going tonight, give me a goddam trophy! Win Sunday. Draw tonight. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: Win Sunday. Draw tonight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Win Sunday. Draw tonight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 11 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Win Sunday. Draw tonight. You know it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) Suddenly after averaging 1.5 points from man city and arsenal our remaining games don't look so bad compared to Spurs...will be close run but to be honest if they can get results v all the top 3 then fair play. Odds of 5th being a champions league place now just 6.2%. what a farce of an effort from England. Edited April 18 by VillaJ100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 58 minutes ago, RichW said: Top 5 being enough for Villa to be in the Champions League ahead of two winnable home games to pretty much seal top 5 would have been too easy. Villa never do it the easy way. Promotion, staying up on the last day when we looked dead and buried, Europe last season. This will go down to the last day where a win against Palace will mean we finish top four. Spurs will be 3-0 up after 30 minutes against Sheff Utd and we will anxiously be waiting for Villa to take the lead. Already mentally preparing myself for a penalty shoot out tonight! You know us too well Wonder if we can borrow Trez for the Palace game and bring him on in the 90th to seal the dramatic winner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Bollocks to the coefficient. Lets just smash everybody until the end of the season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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