Pongo Waring Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 4 hours ago, useless said: Not really bothered about Man Utd in this game, of course would have been nice for them to drop points, but it was always very unlikely so didn't bother getting my hopes up. But the thing to remember is they haven't suddenly turned into world beaters that are going to win every game, they will drop points between now and the end of the season against better opposition than Luton, as will Spurs, so we're still in a great position, I would have believed so even if we had have lost yesterday, the win just makes it even more so and with some very winnable game to come Totally agree 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 hours ago, maqroll said: FFS, if Man Utd win today, they're 2 points behind us. We really **** up Woops, I clearly needed another cup of coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, CVByrne said: United will get 4th, it all depends now on Spurs and if they Spurs it. They've plenty of tough fixtures What a loser mentality. We might as well just give up then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 11 hours ago, CVByrne said: United will get 4th, it all depends now on Spurs and if they Spurs it. They've plenty of tough fixtures Think bookies still have us and Spurs ahead of Utd to finish in CL spots. Utd are in good form points-wise, but their performances have been relatively poor. Be surprised if they don’t start dropping points again soon. I think it’s a three-way fight for 4th, with Spurs our main threat. Edited February 19 by KentVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) Spurs sandwiched between those ECL fixtures are really going to screw us over. They even get a 2 week break between now and their next fixture.... Edited February 19 by AshVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Spurs sandwiched between those ECL fixtures are really going to screw us over. We kept thinking that during the group stages and still managed to get good results in the weekend games. Finger crossed for a favourable draw. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 8 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Spurs sandwiched between those ECL fixtures are really going to screw us over. They even get a 2 week break between now and their next fixture.... Those lengthy breaks are not always a good thing. We struggled in our first few games after the winter break. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 18 minutes ago, AshVilla said: those ECL fixtures are really going to screw us over. Correct. People are really underestimating the impact winning the ECL will have on our PL form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Let's hope people don't get annoyed if we field weaker teams in the ECL and/or get knocked out. Sadly, only one priority for me ATM. We have enough firepower to rotate up top in ECL, but it's our midfield and defense which are threadbare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JPAngel Posted February 19 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 19 I haven't dropped one of these charts in here for a while (mainly because I tried not to think about Villa for a few days following a pretty miserable visit to VP for the United game!) but here's a quick update: For some reason, and this could be blind optimism, but I can't help but feel we've turned a bit of a corner. Chelsea in the cup aside, we played well at Sheff Utd, played some great stuff against Man Utd (but weren't clinical) and earned a well deserved victory against Fulham. If we continue with our projected points for the season, it'd generally be enough for a 3rd place finish - pretty staggering when you consider how we went off the boil after the Arsenal game, alongside the injuries we've sustained. Of course, that feels somewhat fanciful and I still feel 4th will be the best we can achieve. We need 22 points from the last 13 games of the season to finish 4th (based on 14 years of PL averages). 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 41 minutes ago, JPAngel said: I haven't dropped one of these charts in here for a while (mainly because I tried not to think about Villa for a few days following a pretty miserable visit to VP for the United game!) but here's a quick update: For some reason, and this could be blind optimism, but I can't help but feel we've turned a bit of a corner. Chelsea in the cup aside, we played well at Sheff Utd, played some great stuff against Man Utd (but weren't clinical) and earned a well deserved victory against Fulham. If we continue with our projected points for the season, it'd generally be enough for a 3rd place finish - pretty staggering when you consider how we went off the boil after the Arsenal game, alongside the injuries we've sustained. Of course, that feels somewhat fanciful and I still feel 4th will be the best we can achieve. We need 22 points from the last 13 games of the season to finish 4th (based on 14 years of PL averages). Really good to see this represented. If it's not too much work, could you do a graph for United? Then it can be visually represented the tear United will likely need to go on to finish 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted February 19 VT Supporter Share Posted February 19 (edited) 45 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Really good to see this represented. If it's not too much work, could you do a graph for United? Then it can be visually represented the tear United will likely need to go on to finish 4th. Good question. Using all the same averages I've been using this season for the chart on our progress against Man Utd, we get the below: Man Utd are averaging 1.76 PPG which, across an entire season, would see them finish with 67 points (actually 66.8 points) and would generally be enough for a 5th/6th placed finish. For context, 66 points was enough for 5th place in 50% of the last 14 seasons. Interestingly, using the results from last season's corresponding fixtures against their remaining fixtures this season would see them land on 66 points which is pretty damn close to their projection. For them to reach the required average points for 4th place, they'd need to earn another 27 points from their remaining games, a PPG average of 2.07. Here are their remaining fixtures where they earned a total of 22 points: Team Location Previous Season FUL H W MNC A L EVE H W SHU H D BRE A L CHE A D LIV H W BOU A W NEW H D BUR H W CRY A D ARS H W BRI A L Edited February 19 by JPAngel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 minutes ago, JPAngel said: Good question. Using all the same averages I've been using this season for the chart on our progress against Man Utd, we get the below: Man Utd are averaging 1.76 PPG which, across an entire season, would see them finish with 67 points (actually 66.8 points) and would generally be enough for a 5th/6th placed finish. For context, 66 points was enough for 5th place in 50% of the last 14 seasons. Interestingly, using the results from last season's corresponding fixtures against their remaining fixtures this season would see them land on 66 points which is pretty damn close to their projection. For them to reach the required average points for 4th place, they'd need to earn another 27 points from their remaining games, a PPG average of 2.07. Here are their remaining fixtures: Team Location Previous Season FUL H W MNC A L EVE H W SHU H D BRE A L CHE A D LIV H W BOU A W NEW H D BUR H W CRY A D ARS H W BRI A L It's essentially another 8/9 wins. They aren't getting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 12 hours ago, paul514 said: Are games for the last couple of months are hard Our they? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 25 minutes ago, JPAngel said: Good question. Using all the same averages I've been using this season for the chart on our progress against Man Utd, we get the below: Man Utd are averaging 1.76 PPG which, across an entire season, would see them finish with 67 points (actually 66.8 points) and would generally be enough for a 5th/6th placed finish. For context, 66 points was enough for 5th place in 50% of the last 14 seasons. Interestingly, using the results from last season's corresponding fixtures against their remaining fixtures this season would see them land on 66 points which is pretty damn close to their projection. For them to reach the required average points for 4th place, they'd need to earn another 27 points from their remaining games, a PPG average of 2.07. Here are their remaining fixtures where they earned a total of 22 points: Team Location Previous Season FUL H W MNC A L EVE H W SHU H D BRE A L CHE A D LIV H W BOU A W NEW H D BUR H W CRY A D ARS H W BRI A L Its a pitty they don’t play spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 26 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It's essentially another 8/9 wins. They aren't getting that. Is depends. They have an easier final 13 games than us and have to make up 5 points on us. It could go either way but a lot depends on our own form. If we can get 7 more wins, I don’t think they’ll catch us, if we get 5 more wins, they will catch us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 12 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: I'm ruling them out! Just like you've been ruling Villa out the whole season. I have been saying we will get 5th ALL SEASON!. If that is ruling us out then your expectations really are over the top. I said we were not going to win the league and that we would finish 5th. Please explain how that is ruling us out as opposed to being being realistic. The only time I wavered from 5th was after the recent injuries. Why don't you check your facts before poking fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 11 minutes ago, ender4 said: Is depends. They have an easier final 13 games than us and have to make up 5 points on us. It could go either way but a lot depends on our own form. If we can get 7 more wins, I don’t think they’ll catch us, if we get 5 more wins, they will catch us. 6 with the goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 47 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It's essentially another 8/9 wins. They aren't getting that. I don’t know. I can see them winning 4 of the next 5. Lucks with them. We just need to do our job and get another 6/7 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Brace yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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