HalfTimePost Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) A couple of links now (listed below). From Mercato and El Nacional Catalonia. Marca had also said Ceballos is leaving Madrid - but our only mention in it was linked to Asensio I feel like he would be a sensible signing, he should be better than his time at Arsenal and is on a free. As long as he's paid like a rotation or normal First Team player it could make sense - rather than one of the highest earners. I have my doubts though on that considering he'd be a Free from Real Madrid, the cost is likely high. His stats are good even if his goal involvements are pretty low (3 Assists in 18 Starts and 19 sub appearances). As a rotation for McGinn/Ramsey he'd be a good signing imo. Though I feel like Guendouzi would be a more impactful signing and can't see us signing both. Edited May 23, 2023 by HalfTimePost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On 20/05/2023 at 21:32, Tomaszk said: Very talented but Ceballos is a right wally. Proper bonehead on the pitch IMO. If he had a genius like Emery saying be in exactly these areas and do exactly these things he could be brilliant. At his worst, he's exactly like Buendia on one of his off days. Does 90% of the hard work but still wastes the ball 90% of the time. I think he's only worth bringing in if Emery thinks he's nailed to start most of our bigger games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Same as a few players we've been linked with...any other manager I'd be indifferent to this one. Under Emery....I know he's what he needs, I know he will fit and I know he will know exactly what to do with him. Why there isn't much point anymore commenting in the transfer thread or player speculation thread of " I didn't rate him at City." " I didn't rate him at Arsenal." The guy in charge is the real mother****ing deal yo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Had some decent early games at Arsenal and then faded badly. Agree with Tom above, he can carry the ball o.k but passing inconsistent once he reaches the box. I don't think he'd be the gamechanger in final third many think he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I'd take FBref profiles of players from clubs such as Madrid with a pinch of salt: they're not possession adjusted so they do tend to get quite inflated when playing for a club with more possession & on the front foot, so they're not as reflective of a player's quality. His Smarterscout profile suggests a midfielder who is very, very good at defending and link-up play, who shouldn't be relied on for creating too many chances himself: which seems to be exactly how he's used at Madrid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 On a free sounds good to me as long as his wages aren't extravagant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, wishywashy said: I'd take FBref profiles of players from clubs such as Madrid with a pinch of salt: they're not possession adjusted so they do tend to get quite inflated when playing for a club with more possession & on the front foot, so they're not as reflective of a player's quality. His Smarterscout profile suggests a midfielder who is very, very good at defending and link-up play, who shouldn't be relied on for creating too many chances himself: which seems to be exactly how he's used at Madrid. His numbers at Arsenal might be a better indicator in that sense given the level they were on at the time, they fluctuate a little bit and suggest he maybe had different responsibilities from one season to another but still healthy enough on the whole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Ceballos is decent on the ball, emery wants ut to take our time and build the play and then exploit the space left behind when the opposition gets frustrated and comes out to us. The bench was the big weak area for us and cost us a few points over the season this year, he won't play every game and definitely won't be a marquee signing but its probably a good move for both the player and club. He can get a few assists for us aswell, i think he is better than what he showed at Arsenal and he wasnt bad there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 The right winger we needed, oh wait thats a different right wing he supports 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, wishywashy said: I'd take FBref profiles of players from clubs such as Madrid with a pinch of salt: they're not possession adjusted so they do tend to get quite inflated when playing for a club with more possession & on the front foot, so they're not as reflective of a player's quality. His Smarterscout profile suggests a midfielder who is very, very good at defending and link-up play, who shouldn't be relied on for creating too many chances himself: which seems to be exactly how he's used at Madrid. So a bit like the midfielders we already have..? Good on the ball but don't create an awful lot of chances? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Indigo said: His numbers at Arsenal might be a better indicator in that sense given the level they were on at the time, they fluctuate a little bit and suggest he maybe had different responsibilities from one season to another but still healthy enough on the whole. Smarterscout seems to think he largely played DM under Emery, but their way of judging what positions players are in is weird at the best of times. They're still relatively indicative of his general qualities, though (but they've been adjusted differently, given how DMs are naturally expected to defend better and attack less than CMs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted May 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2023 If Emery wants him that's good enough for me, and on a free you can't really go wrong - (I assume his wages won't be astronomical). This is the kind of signing you'd see popping up in a CL KO game with Villareal, and wonder why we didn't sign him on a free ourselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Is he better than Dendoncker? If so, bring him in and sell the Donk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Openly pining for a fascist dictator when he was 19—maybe he's grown out of it, but I like to like our players. He seems like a prick, and not in any good "we need a bit of backbone" sense. He was quite negatively outspoken about Basque people too, yet Emery signed him for Arsenal, so maybe he's calmed down a bit. Edited May 23, 2023 by Rolta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Not super high on Ceballos tbh. Early promise but he's mainly been a bit part player who's not scored or assisted any since he left Betis, granted for a very good club (and also Arsenal) so it's hard to say how he's developed. Not sure where he'd fit in either apart from as a good squad option. Asensio on the other hand would be amazing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, sne said: Not super high on Ceballos tbh. Early promise but he's mainly been a bit part player who's not scored or assisted any since he left Betis, granted for a very good club (and also Arsenal) so it's hard to say how he's developed. Not sure where he'd fit in either apart from as a good squad option. Asensio on the other hand would be amazing. We can't really judge a player based purely on the numbers. McGinn for instance doesn't get a whole lot of goals or assists, would we turn our noses up at him if we were linked with him now? We know from watching him that McGinn is better than his stats suggest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, duke313 said: We can't really judge a player based purely on the numbers. McGinn for instance doesn't get a whole lot of goals or assists, would we turn our noses up at him if we were linked with him now? We know from watching him that McGinn is better than his stats suggest. Of course not, and I'm not. I'd say I've watched most of the PL games Ceballos played for Arsenal and probably half he played for Betis before his big move to Real. For Real it's hard to say because as mentioned he's been a bit part player with a lot of sub appearances so difficult to get a rhythm going. He's looked OK from what I've seen. Similar situation to say Pulisic or Ziyech. Who knows if they'll flourish at a new club or if they've grown comfortable with being squad option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 What's his pass to the assist ratio? A lot of the time, an assist is due to a great pass that splits defences. Players like that can slip under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Santi Aouna said we booked a medical for Ismailia Sarr which never existed. Wouldn't say he's credible. Edited May 23, 2023 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frodo Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 It's like I said in the Tranfer thread, reminds me abit of Dougie, puts his foot in, tidy on the ball, good passing range, this guy isn't replacing Beundia, he ain't even a Number 10 type player, his stats say that. If he is being brought in as a squad option for our midfield so when we do rotate there is no disruption regards the way we play, then this is a very good option to have & he is free & has bags of experience in European football, basically we're not breaking the bank for him, should be on sensible wages. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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