sharkyvilla Posted August 9, 2023 Share Posted August 9, 2023 On 08/08/2023 at 17:29, NurembergVillan said: PS - if you made it to the end of that post, you can award yourself an MSc in Materials Science. I was thinking of joining this Sparks Design Academy thing but I don't think I need to now, cheers mate! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) It's annoying when you see the league home kits and there just isn't much difference between ours, West Hams and Burnleys kit, take the badge off and they can all pass as each others kit. Wish we were more unique in our colours Edited August 10, 2023 by supermon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread Edited August 10, 2023 by supermon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) On 08/08/2023 at 17:28, NurembergVillan said: First off - it's glaringly obvious when you look at the players that they're wet through. This isn't ideal... Given the weight of the fabric (based on what I saw last season) it's unlikely that the players are "sweating more". It's also unlikely to affect on-field performance as a result. Sweat on the skin actually helps to cool the body down - as you move, the air cools the liquid which cools you. In theory, if you dry yourself then you'll simply start sweating again. In terms of performance fabrics, "wicking" is where a material moves liquid (sweat) from one side of the garment to the other - in this case from the inside to the outside. From there, the air will allow the liquid to evaporate. Fabrics that are wet to the outside are normally doing their job properly. There's a limit to how much impact wicking fabrics can have though. If you're sweating profusely, no fabric in the world is going to wick the moisture and dry it quicker than you can produce it. Anyone claiming otherwise is talking bollocks. At this point (and often what I aim to achieve in my own work) it's about making wet feel comfortable. Then you get some cooling benefit AND you're not distracting the athlete. These shirts look like they're clinging to the players and so that's possibly uncomfortable and a distraction. It doesn't mean it's necessarily an active distraction, it's just the wearer is more likely to be aware of it. The best feedback you can get from an athlete is no feedback at all, IMHO. The stuff I designed for 2006 was super lightweight so it wet out very quickly. It was also textured, so it didn't stick to the skin of the players so easily. It's a fine balance because whilst a heavier fabric will be more absorbent and therefore look and potentially feel drier, it's also going to be a lot heavier still once it's soaked with sweat. Like a bath towel when you take it out of the washing machine (assuming you're all modern men who do some housework). SO - it could be intentional for the fabric to move the sweat like that BUT I very much doubt that visual during a match is something they would've wanted or been happy with. If the fabric was tested on athletes (rather than just in a lab) I'm guessing it was in a colour that didn't show the dark marks - maybe even black and white stripes... Unless the players are overheating in it (which I doubt, but I'd need to see the shirt) it's unlikely to be causing them a problem beyond being a bit uncomfortable. If it's that much of an issue for them, we'll find out because they'll start playing in the replica... Thanks! Sulberto 21.MSc materials science. Edited August 10, 2023 by Sulberto21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) On 08/08/2023 at 17:29, NurembergVillan said: PS - if you made it to the end of that post, you can award yourself an MSc in Materials Science. I did so thanks! "These shirts look like they're clinging to the players and so that's possibly uncomfortable and a distraction. It doesn't mean it's necessarily an active distraction, it's just the wearer is more likely to be aware of it. The best feedback you can get from an athlete is no feedback at all, IMHO." I run regularly and have a number of different T-shirts obviously.... The ones that cling quickly find their way out of my rotation. Whilst not being particularly uncomfortable it is a distraction to me and also like the pictures of the Villa players we are discussing....it just looks bad! Edited August 10, 2023 by MarkLillis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 (edited) Anyone had the away shirt posted to them yet? I've had the hoodie turn up but not the shirt Edit - ordered it 30th July, 11 days still not got it Edited August 10, 2023 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 11 hours ago, supermon said: It's annoying when you see the league home kits and there just isn't much difference between ours, West Hams and Burnleys kit, take the badge off and they can all pass as each others kit. Wish we were more unique in our colours Personally, I am no more concerned that West Ham and Burnley nicked our kit than I am that Australia and New Zealand have the Union Jack in the corner of their flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 not a great amount of followers but looks like the kit pics last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
id92 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Yeah looks legit, not going to be a fan favourite in years to come, a bit like the navy blue Kappa 3rd kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, nick76 said: not a great amount of followers but looks like the kit pics last week I like the white background in these pictures. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasetown Villa Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Went to the club shop yesterday to pick up the away shirt for my son. No kids away tops due to ‘supply issues’ despite Twitter stating the kit would be in store on Friday. It’s an absolute shitshow. We are operating at League 2 level when it comes to merchandise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, Chasetown Villa said: Went to the club shop yesterday to pick up the away shirt for my son. No kids away tops due to ‘supply issues’ despite Twitter stating the kit would be in store on Friday. It’s an absolute shitshow. We are operating at League 2 level when it comes to merchandise. Further to my post before I had an email last night apologising for a cock up at the distribution centre or some such shite and 25% off my next order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I’m a bit concerned that they all look like they’ve been playing in Dubai at peak summer. Does this kit wick nothing away?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 12/08/2023 at 19:25, Spoony said: I’m a bit concerned that they all look like they’ve been playing in Dubai at peak summer. Does this kit wick nothing away?? Can we just wear last season’s again? Was drastically better, this one is the worst since promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 12/08/2023 at 06:09, Chasetown Villa said: Went to the club shop yesterday to pick up the away shirt for my son. No kids away tops due to ‘supply issues’ despite Twitter stating the kit would be in store on Friday. It’s an absolute shitshow. We are operating at League 2 level when it comes to merchandise. It's Castore. They are known within thr industry to not be able to meet demand. Yet still get contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I think, someone on this forum, with some influence, should write to the powers that be and ask players to stop pouring water over themselves. This will be particularly important when temperatures start approaching zero or below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosch Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 "I'm not going anywhere near that glistening mess." --Adama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 11/08/2023 at 10:32, id92 said: Yeah looks legit, not going to be a fan favourite in years to come, a bit like the navy blue Kappa 3rd kit. That navy kit was one of my favourite away kits. I wear that alot. This is just no comparison whatsoever. Looks every "england 90s" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 On 12/08/2023 at 19:25, Spoony said: I’m a bit concerned that they all look like they’ve been playing in Dubai at peak summer. Does this kit wick nothing away?? This is a genuine concern btw. It must be hindering the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted August 14, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, Spoony said: This is a genuine concern btw. It must be hindering the players. Someone hasn't been doing their materials science homework... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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