tonyh29 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 presumably even an AI hasn't heard any Mark E Smith music either 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 10, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 hour ago, bickster said: Even worse. A song about helicopters in the style of Mark E Smith Chopper conspiracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted May 23, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Xann said: That's amongst the most terrifying things I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 23, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, HKP90 said: That's amongst the most terrifying things I've ever seen. Like 'Spoons at 10:30 am. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 23, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, blandy said: Like 'Spoons at 10:30 am. Devo video on acid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, HKP90 said: That's amongst the most terrifying things I've ever seen. Without falling foul of site guidelines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 New superbug-killing antibiotic discovered using AI - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65709834 It's happening. Hopefully this is just the start to something fantastic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 People worry about AI taking over but might be great to have an AI government. Completely incorruptible, not going to want a few hundred grand to clean the moat, purpose built so can't swan off doing after dinner chats and 'consultancy' when they should be running the country for a few hundred grand, not going to be bribed of have family threatened by gangsters, or caught with pants down in some brothel, or make racist statements. Not going to treat the poor with contempt. Just going to make the best choices and logical decisions to benefit everyone. I wonder if there's a sci fi novel where an AI took over but it's actually a utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 On 17/02/2023 at 07:50, fightoffyour said: Paywall remover if anyone wants to read: https://www.removepaywall.com/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-microsoft-chatgpt.html Can use archive.today as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: Completely incorruptible Bold claim about these indescribably complex closed-source solutions architected with the backing of Microsoft, Google, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: People worry about AI taking over but might be great to have an AI government. Completely incorruptible, not going to want a few hundred grand to clean the moat, purpose built so can't swan off doing after dinner chats and 'consultancy' when they should be running the country for a few hundred grand, not going to be bribed of have family threatened by gangsters, or caught with pants down in some brothel, or make racist statements. Not going to treat the poor with contempt. Just going to make the best choices and logical decisions to benefit everyone. I wonder if there's a sci fi novel where an AI took over but it's actually a utopia. People who have built their empires on sitting on knowledge I think need to worry, if you've got a practical skill you'll be fine, that is until they've built the machine that can print what you do. Importantly they'll be able to make the best choices using the world of information, not based on some individual or cohort experience. For so many years AI seemed to be the next big thing, now it's really getting somewhere. I think AI could be as important to us as the discovery of fire. I'm loving it - do I understand it, nope but I know the difference between a perceptron and Adaline. One day hopefully it'll be able to tell us how it works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2023 10 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: I wonder if there's a sci fi novel where an AI took over but it's actually a utopia. Would be a very boring book. It's pretty much a given that a novel has to have conflict of some sort. I guess you could have one where the AI overlord is the 'good guy' having to defend itself against evil humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted May 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2023 Iain M Banks Culture series novels essentially present a utopian society that has hyper intelligent AI machines running all aspects of the societal infrastructure. A recurring theme is how a utopian society interacts with other societies and situations, and there's a lot of stuff about espionage and conflict. Including one book that may or may not be a story seen from the perspective of society that is being influenced by contact with the Culture without realising it. And another book that is focused on the reaction of the society when it encounters something it simply doesn't understand featuring lots of sequences from the AIs perspective as they try to work out how to react to something that simply do not know. They're very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, Chindie said: Iain M Banks Culture series novels essentially present a utopian society that has hyper intelligent AI machines running all aspects of the societal infrastructure. A recurring theme is how a utopian society interacts with other societies and situations, and there's a lot of stuff about espionage and conflict. Including one book that may or may not be a story seen from the perspective of society that is being influenced by contact with the Culture without realising it. And another book that is focused on the reaction of the society when it encounters something it simply doesn't understand featuring lots of sequences from the AIs perspective as they try to work out how to react to something that simply do not know. They're very good. I'd forgotten about those, read them years ago. Can't remember whether I finished the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: I wonder if there's a sci fi novel where an AI took over but it's actually a utopia. Reminds me of The Matrix when the AI explains humans rejected their utopia they created and wanted conflict instead. Demolition Man had a similar idea. The utopian world was so boring that people broke ‘free’ to live in the messy sewers. Edited May 26, 2023 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 The biggest threat to society is loss of human jobs. The car company I work for are already working on a AI substitute diagnosing faults on cars. You can park up, contact the computer and it will automatically reprogram/ repair any software faults on the car. Being that electric cars now have fewer mechanical parts and basically run by various control units, you will probably never have to visit a garage At the moment it takes human interaction to find the fault, me!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: You can park up, contact the computer and it will automatically reprogram/ repair any software faults on the car. There’s no such thing as software faults. Software cannot go wrong or break. It can of course be badly written or compiled, or contain errors or what are euphemistically called “undocumented design features”. But software can’t be “repaired”. Also, most software in cars is firmware, embedded on individual ASICS etc isn’t it? So the air con system or the entertainment system or the parking sensors or whatever each have their own embedded software, so if the radio stops working due to a software error, it’s highly likely that the radio will need replacing… Even with the most recent models of electric cars, even with more integrated systems, there’s still going to be plenty of work for engineers, technicians and mechanics, but if AI helps them diagnose faults or anomalous behaviour more effectively then that’s a win all round. Also, while I’m on the subject, a lot of the headlines and stuff are just a current fad for a “new” thing. A new angle on an age old fear of something new coming along and taking all our jobs. It won’t. It’ll change the nature and type of work that we do, the same as the motor car did and the computer and the mobile phone and the washing machine and… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, blandy said: There’s no such thing as software faults. Software cannot go wrong or break. It can of course be badly written or compiled, or contain errors or what are euphemistically called “undocumented design features” In my early years as a programmer, our mortgage lender screwed up our payments schedule. I went in to the branch (the days when you could do such a thing), and the girl behind the counter basically did that Fast Show [*] routine - "Computer says no". After I had pointed out the obvious mistakes on my printed statement, she got a bit flustered, and backtracked to "Oh, must be a computer error". At which point I gave her the spiel as per your post above - it's a human error. Now fix it. As we used to say: "I hate this damn computer. I wish to God they'd sell it. It never does what I want it to, but only what I tell it". [*] EDIT: I know, I know, Little Britain. Edited May 26, 2023 by mjmooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 26, 2023 Moderator Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, mjmooney said: In my early years as a programmer Thanks. I was dreading a programmer or code monkey or software engineer taking issue so it’s nice to be backed up, instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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