Rolta Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, mallett said: Are his stats similar to Grealish at the same age? I remember explaining to an Italian friend how Grealish didn’t score many or get many assists or have much pace but that he was by far our best player Grealish isn't slow. Being slow would be a problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted January 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Rolta said: Grealish isn't slow. Being slow would be a problem. He was quicker running with the ball than Bailey is without it. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: He was quicker running with the ball than Bailey is without it. Cool story bro... Sure it's been mentioned numerous times, but Leon Bailey is in the top 5 fastest players in Bundesliga history. He's also in the top 10 recorded Premier League speeds. Lol I don't think Jack even cracks the top 20 or 30. Semantics don't change the facts Edited January 27, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Cool story bro... Sure it's been mentioned numerous times, but Leon Bailey is in the top 5 fastest players in Bundesliga history. Semantics don't change the facts Is this a bundesliga stat or with us? Can only think of one time I’ve thought Bailey looked genuinely fast and that’s as when he was running through against Everton. Edited January 27, 2023 by IrishVilla10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Is this a bundesliga stat or with us? Can only think of one time I’ve thought Bailey looked genuinely fast and that’s as when he was running through against Everton. I edited the post as I also found that we was 6th fastest recorded top speed in PL last season. Granted I'll agree, doesn't seem to be doing/showing much of that anymore, not sure why, but exaggerating about it which alot seem to do I can't hack. Apparently Daniel James was actually the fastest last season as well. Edit: To be fair, some of our fans don't even realise Ollie is one of the fastest players in the league too. Edited January 27, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I edited the post as I also found that we was 6th fastest recorded top speed in PL last season. Granted I'll agree, doesn't seem to be doing/showing much of that anymore, not sure why, but exaggerating about it which alot seem to do I can't hack. Apparently Daniel James was actually the fastest last season as well. Yes it’s getting tiresome the way some go on and on about him and Buendia, Emery clearly sees something in him or he wouldn’t have persevered with him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 5 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Cool story bro... Sure it's been mentioned numerous times, but Leon Bailey is in the top 5 fastest players in Bundesliga history. He's also in the top 10 recorded Premier League speeds. Lol I don't think Jack even cracks the top 20 or 30. Semantics don't change the facts Never forget https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/5-fastest-players-english-premier-league-history-nunez-walker-traore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Recording a top speed running back to defend (Trezeguet) doesn't mean he had any acceleration. I imagine he had a 20m build up before he hit that number. He couldn't dream of doing it with a ball at his feet and he certainly couldn't do it to get past a player. Trezeguet was slow for a winger in actual useful reality. Jack was the opposite. Jack running with the ball was clearly something special, and he did it at a speed you rarely see. Bailey doesn't do that. It's not a part of his game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Edit: To be fair, some of our fans don't even realise Ollie is one of the fastest players in the league too. Yeah been in the top 10 in PL every season I've checked. I'll also remember the video of McGinn and JJ about FIFA ratings and they had Mings as their 3rd fastest at the club with McGinn saying he there we a lot of quick players at the club. Listed also Konsa, Bert and Cash. So for what McGinn and JJ said I've stuck with Watkins, Bailey, Mings as the three fastest at the club. Edited January 28, 2023 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Pretty sure Engels made the list of fast Prem players one year. Makes me sceptical of how it's calculated. Edit: He was clocked at 36.84kmph, equal 8th fastest with Kyle Walker that season. I think it mast have been taken when he was driving his car away from the ground as there's no way he did it in a game. Edited January 28, 2023 by May-Z 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, May-Z said: Pretty sure Engels made the list of fast Prem players one year. Makes me sceptical of how it's calculated. Edit: He was clocked at 36.84kmph, equal 8th fastest with Kyle Walker that season. I think it mast have been taken when he was driving his car away from the ground as there's no way he did it in a game. It's top speed and will be without the ball. So how useful it is is questionable in general. How long a player takes to get to the top speed isn't know, the acceleration over 10m is not known, speed with the ball isn't known. For example we know Jack is very quick with the ball and he has a huge amount of control of the ball too. How that compares to other laers who are quick with the ball at their feet, it doesn't tell you how often they are in top control of it etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Acceleration > top speed. The players who seem the fastest are the ones who get to their top speed soonest. Often a centre half may have a faster top sprinting speed than a winger or striker, but they take too long getting to it and are left for dead. Bailey is rapid. There may be a few faster accelerating players around though. I love him though. He's fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupinthe5th Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Adam Armstrong was the fastest player in the PL last season faster than Adama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mazrim said: Acceleration > top speed. The players who seem the fastest are the ones who get to their top speed soonest. Often a centre half may have a faster top sprinting speed than a winger or striker, but they take too long getting to it and are left for dead. Bailey is rapid. There may be a few faster accelerating players around though. I love him though. He's fast enough. Agree with this - the ability to buy yourself a little space makes all the difference at this level. RE: Grealish, he's an absolute freak with how well and quickly he can dribble with the ball. Very few players can do that. Interestingly, that kid for Southampton Tyler Dibling looks to have that ability too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Mazrim said: Acceleration > top speed. The players who seem the fastest are the ones who get to their top speed soonest. Often a centre half may have a faster top sprinting speed than a winger or striker, but they take too long getting to it and are left for dead. Bailey is rapid. There may be a few faster accelerating players around though. I love him though. He's fast enough. Speed of thought is also a big thing in my view. For instance Adama Traore is rapid of foot, but not of brain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupinthe5th Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Bid Rejected. I really hope we can pull this one off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Lupinthe5th said: Bid Rejected. I really hope we can pull this one off. Where you seen that reported ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, thabucks said: Where you seen that reported ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Villan_of_oz Posted January 28, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2023 22 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: He was quicker running with the ball than Bailey is without it. They're both faster than Coutinho! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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