Risso Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Is he? Forget that then, as you were. The point about lack of experience stands though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, Risso said: Is he? Forget that then, as you were. The point about lack of experience stands though. Cash and Konsa have loads of Prem experience and they were bobbins today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Risso said: Is he? Forget that then, as you were. The point about lack of experience stands though. Right footed but played at left centre back at Sevilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 The perfect replacement for Mings as in size & aggression, sure will find out now how well his injury has healed, gutted for Mings colossal player for us & hope it's not a season ending injury let alone a career ending one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 5 hours ago, Frodo said: The perfect replacement for Mings as in size & aggression, sure will find out now how well his injury has healed, gutted for Mings colossal player for us & hope it's not a season ending injury let alone a career ending one This is how I see it. He’s the obvious Mings replacement but he just doesn’t have the experience and still won’t have settled into the PL. going to be a really shakey few months at the back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2023 I think some of us may be underestimating how good this guy is. He was really highly rated when we signed him and had been a big part of a successful Sevilla side with an excellent defensive record. I have seen nothing to suggest that he isn't fully recovered from his injury and his rehabilitation and introduction back into first team football seems to have gone really well over the last few months. He would have been pushing for a starting spot anyway, the Mings injury just means he is going to have to step up to the plate now. It will require us to make some signing to replace Mings who is better than Torres or Carlos in terms of ability. My bigger concern is who can replace Mings in terms of leadership qualities but given that Carlos was made vice captain under Gerrard (and I know that may not be a ringing endorsement) it may be that he can step up in that regard as well. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 From looking like our 4th most important CB he may be our most important now. Him and Torres is a good partnership on paper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJay Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Looks to be an opportune time to start him alongside Pau, and break up the Mings/Konsa partnership due to the unfortunate injury to Ty, and drop Ezri to third choice. We most likely would have persisted with that partnership for quite a while and rightly so due to their form last season. Bring Moreno back in and suddenly we look a whole different proposition in our build up play. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catanzaro Posted August 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2023 I just want to see what he can do.. I like the guy.. but I don’t know why.. but I have a feeling this is make or break for him with us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2023 6 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I think some of us may be underestimating how good this guy is. He was really highly rated when we signed him and had been a big part of a successful Sevilla side with an excellent defensive record. I have seen nothing to suggest that he isn't fully recovered from his injury and his rehabilitation and introduction back into first team football seems to have gone really well over the last few months. He would have been pushing for a starting spot anyway, the Mings injury just means he is going to have to step up to the plate now. It will require us to make some signing to replace Mings who is better than Torres or Carlos in terms of ability. My bigger concern is who can replace Mings in terms of leadership qualities but given that Carlos was made vice captain under Gerrard (and I know that may not be a ringing endorsement) it may be that he can step up in that regard as well. Abso-****-ing-lutely. He isn't Tyrone -- very different personality -- the "eco-system" of the squad is going to adapt in terms of leadership, but no reason to think it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I'd be happy with Konsa (RB), Carlos and Pau next game. It's just a shame Moreno isn't fit to bomb up the left flank. Our best FB for years injured...shocker! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Spoony said: This is how I see it. He’s the obvious Mings replacement but he just doesn’t have the experience and still won’t have settled into the PL. going to be a really shakey few months at the back This is why I think we may hedge our bets a bit and play 3 at the back for a month or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Has to start with Torres for me now as our new partnership. And we need to give them a run of games to settle and learn each others game, no knee-jerk reactions. For me Torres and Carlos will compliment each other the best with Torres being the calm, ball playing defender; with Carlos being the dominant, aerial ball winning defender. The language barrier will also be easiest with those two both speaking Spanish. For me Konsa is better with Mings being the more vocal defender next to him and organising the defence, he fell apart after Mings went off although the whole back line suffered and our high line was a shambles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 So with all the extra games who do we rotate? We going to use chambers at cb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, Demitri_C said: So with all the extra games who do we rotate? We going to use chambers at cb? I think that's difficult as he's slow so can't work properly in the high line. I think we need a new RB / RCB type player now. Then Konsa is more CB option with Carlos and Torres. We'll need to throw everyone into deep end to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I think that's difficult as he's slow so can't work properly in the high line. I think we need a new RB / RCB type player now. Then Konsa is more CB option with Carlos and Torres. We'll need to throw everyone into deep end to learn I would agree unless we have any players in the u21s that can step up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frodo Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 It's your time big man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 The decision to be extremely cautious with his minutes coming back at the end of last season now looks to be very prudent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Feel like in much the same way that Mings and Konsa suited each other as a partnership, he and Torres are the best for one another out of the other CBs at the club. Fitness permitting would be interesting to see how they worked alongside one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: So with all the extra games who do we rotate? We going to use chambers at cb? Pau/Carlos, Pau/Konsa or Carlos/Konsa. With Chambers to come on as sub to see a game out if one of them need subbed. Kamara also used to be a centre back so could play there if need be. We had people on here asking why were even signing Pau as they felt we had enough centre backs at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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