Davkaus Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: That's one thing we seem to lack. Just seem to be missing the belief against these sides. We start the games on the back foot. That Man United game seems a very, very long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Not sure people are reading too much into the fact that we lost to Arsenal but Newcastle are beating them, means absolutely nothing, there will be teams we've beat but Newcastle have lost to. Also since January 1st only Liverpool have taken more points than Newcastle, so if we're being criticized for not being as good as them recently then might as well criticize the whole league, Newcastle have been in unbelievable form, we shouldn't be measure against that. Edited May 16, 2022 by useless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Yeah Newcastle's turnaround has been incredible really. Feels like their January has completely galvanised the whole squad. Howe is doing a good job too. That Targett lad has been inspiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, useless said: Not sure people are reading too much into the fact that we lost to Arsenal but Newcastle are beating them, means absolutely nothing, there will be teams we've beat but Newcastle have lost to. Also since January 1st only Liverpool have taken more points than Newcastle, so if we're being criticized for not being as good as them recently then might as well criticize the whole league, Newcastle have been in unbelievable form, we should be measure against that. Its not about beating Arsenal. We never laid a finger on them after they had just got a midweek runaround by Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Just now, Davkaus said: In theory,. we have very wealthy, motivated owners, and there's no reason we can't go toe to toe with Newcastle over the next few years. So why does it feel like we're watching them go above us for the next 10+ years. We badly need a Guimaraes type in our central midfield tbh. That's the sort of signing that's pushed them up a level considering they were playing likes of Shelvey and Issac Hayden in there not so long ago. Howe has been quite ruthless on the quiet, culled Ciaran Clark from the squad in January when he'd been a regular under Bruce first 10 games and most of last season. Just sums up the two managers really. One who just asks his players to put their boots on and run around a bit and the other actually coaches them on the training ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Dwight Gayle manages to look really old and really young at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Yes, let's do a slow day on SSN segment. I'll take a stab at it: Martinez Cash Gabriel Mings Digne Luiz Partey Odegaard Saka Buendia Watkins/Ings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: In theory,. we have very wealthy, motivated owners, and there's no reason we can't go toe to toe with Newcastle over the next few years. So why does it feel like we're watching them go above us for the next 10+ years. Newcastle look like they believe they are in the cusp of something big. We look like we believe might paddle along in mid table for the foreseeable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 The Newcastle players are all playing at 110%, because they have been sold the dream. No one wants to leave, if they carry on playing at 110%, they will have new contracts doubling, tripling there salaries. They know now where there bread is going to be buttered. Our boys, think if they don't perform, we will do F*** all, i.e McGinn untouchable, or the grass will be greener elsewhere in the league. Do you think Targett will be gagging to come back here, or play for Midtable (this season) Newcastle? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Guimares is absolutely brilliant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 After Arsenal beat us they celebrated like mad because they knew it was a hard fought win. Pretty sure we wouldn't be having all this rubbish if Smith was still manager, or some other manager that there wasn't a strange agenda against, some of the fanatical hatred is like something you'd expect from the most bigoted Rangers or Celtic fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Only watched for 15 minutes but however much they spent on Pepe was too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, useless said: Not sure people are reading too much into the fact that we lost to Arsenal but Newcastle are beating them, means absolutely nothing, there will be teams we've beat but Newcastle have lost to. Also since January 1st only Liverpool have taken more points than Newcastle, so if we're being criticized for not being as good as them recently then might as well criticize the whole league, Newcastle have been in unbelievable form, we shouldn't be measure against that. I think it's that disappointing run of games when we won three straight and then played very meekly v West Ham, Arsenal and Wolves and lost all three games. Wolves have had a terrible end of the season yet will finish comfortably above us and Arsenal and West Ham been up and down in form. We won't be challenging for top 7 anytime soon unless we start believing we can take some points off them next season like other teams around us have done recently. If people are wondering why likes of Brentford, Palace and Brighton will be finishing above us that's why. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted May 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, useless said: After Arsenal beat us they celebrated like mad because they knew it was a hard fought win. Pretty sure we wouldn't be having all this rubbish if Smith was still manager, or some other manager that there wasn't a strange agenda against, some of the fanatical hatred is like something you'd expect from the most bigoted Rangers or Celtic fans. What a weird overreaction. We played like shit in that game, that's it. There's no agenda. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: I'll take a stab at it: Martinez Cash Gabriel Mings Digne Luiz Partey Odegaard Saka Buendia Watkins/Ings Smith-Rowe is a better player than Buendia. Ramsdale/Martinez is very close - I'd have said Martinez all day, last season. Not so much this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted May 16, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, VillaChris said: We badly need a Guimaraes type in our central midfield tbh. That's the sort of signing that's pushed them up a level considering they were playing likes of Shelvey and Issac Hayden in there not so long ago. Howe has been quite ruthless on the quiet, culled Ciaran Clark from the squad in January when he'd been a regular under Bruce first 10 games and most of last season. Just sums up the two managers really. One who just asks his players to put their boots on and run around a bit and the other actually coaches them on the training ground. I just feel like if we had have signed him it just wouldn't have worked out. We can't seem to get midfielders right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, useless said: Not sure people are reading too much into the fact that we lost to Arsenal but Newcastle are beating them, means absolutely nothing, there will be teams we've beat but Newcastle have lost to. Also since January 1st only Liverpool have taken more points than Newcastle, so if we're being criticized for not being as good as them recently then might as well criticize the whole league, Newcastle have been in unbelievable form, we shouldn't be measure against that. I think we should be measured against ourselves. Since investing in January, we've, at best, stayed still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) The lack of belief is exactly what Gerrard is looking to resolve by the signings of Coutinho and Digne. Players that have won things and played at the very highest level of club competition....expect more of the same signings. Edited May 16, 2022 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 As Ian Wright is currently saying, 4th was always out of reach for Arsenal. They've done well to get this far. But Manchester United being 10 points off 4th is actually hilarious. They signed Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo in the summer too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derryvillan Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: Only watched for 15 minutes but however much they spent on Pepe was too much Just came on to post similar. £72m apparently. Needs investigated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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