Aston_Villan4 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: Him and Digne. Both left it To be fair the entire back line just stood still. Can’t tell if they couldn’t see or they were hoping for an offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, duke313 said: 4231 best suits the players we currently have, shame SG can’t see it. agreed! Mcginn will never be dropped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, est1874 said: I'm not comparing. It's an illustration to argue that our midfields are always shit regardless or personnel or who coaches them. Go on though, let's say it's all the manager's fault, who would you put in charge tomorrow that would definitely take the Villa job? I can't say I have a list of interviewees. I don't run a football club, but that doesn't mean I'm blind to the evidence that points toward Gerrard being a poor coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This match should probably be abandoned in these conditions to be fair I just see unnecessary injuries happening. Better make sure your buddy Leon stays on that bench wrapped in cotton wool! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Simply start with that midfield we are bottom half of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bobzy Posted July 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2022 I find it amazing that people want us to be playing intricate passing on this absolute pudding of a pitch. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Wow, where do you start? Pitch isn’t helping anyone but it’s turgid. McGinn is playing well, Coutinho the only quality. Watkins looks out of his depth today, Ings looks slow, two up top isn’t helping our game at all. Goals conceded poor. Mings actually looks a problem today. Kamara hasn’t turned up. Would to see a forward off and Buendia or even Bailey on. Surely we can’t be any worse second half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) I'm not blaming SG alone, but maybe it's time we accept that a few of our darlings aren't gonna take us any further. People want to pick on Watkins, and if I'm honest he needs to do better. However you can argue, that McGinn over a long period hasn't been good enough often enough and Mings is falling into that category too. At the moment the only system we seem to have is get it wide to Digne or Cash who put crosses under pressure into two strikers who are out of sync with each other and the rest of the team. Similar to the Grealish days we're then going to rely on Coutinho to produce some magic moment to give us any hope... Edited July 23, 2022 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Farlz said: Absolutely nothing as changed from last season. At least this should hopefully calm down the Europe talk again. But seriously why would it ? Gerrard has been here since November - he's had hours on the training pitch with the players. The idea that 4/5 over the summer was going to transform is was always a long shot imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaCas Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Forwards are the difference for me. Sancho and Rashford have pace and are willing to run behind - Watkins and Ings don’t and aren’t Archer, Luiz and Buendia for Watkins, Ings and mcginn at half-time Easy to overreact to this but early days - I’m still confident we’ll be ok next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted July 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2022 At one stage, we had Kamara with the ball in the opposition half, he looked to his left and found a static JJ maybe 5 yards away on the same line. So he propped, turned to his right and saw a static McGinn 10 yards away again on the same line - but with his back turned. There was nobody else even remotely close with a bunch of ManUre players starting to close him down. We turned over possession. In a microcosm - that explains our play so far. Disjointed, slow, lack of urgency, individualistic. I really hope Neil Critchley can stamp some style on us - and soon! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 If we all suddenly take pre season so seriously, indications so far are that Man U are probably going to win the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I don’t think JJ or mcginn should start to be honest. As good as I think JJ is I don’t think he’s ready to start every game. For me Luiz and a new 8 need to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, AV82 said: I can't say I have a list of interviewees. I don't run a football club, but that doesn't mean I'm blind to the evidence that points toward Gerrard being a poor coach. Job title aside, all evidence would suggest he's not actually the one who coaches them. So I think what you mean to say is that Beale and more recently Critchley (though early days for him) are poor coaches. Add to that Danks, O'Kelly, Terry, and pretty much everyone who has led training under the last couple of managers, because we've always played shit football. It's not as simple as, "Stevie G is shit innit" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: Not an encouraging half of football. Same struggles in possession, midfield not linking up well, resorting to hopeful punts forward. Coutinho has been really poor, I don’t know why we had a collective brainfart for their second goal, perhaps they were distracted by the brief monsoon. That being said, United have been very good with the ball, good movement and pressing off the ball too which has made it tough for us. This is why it's so frustrating... You can see after a preseason, Man United look like they're transformed into an organized and dangerous side with no new signings in this 11 they put out... We still look as lost and disjointed as we have been during the 2nd half of last season, even after two Champions League quality additions to the 1st team. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rolta said: The weather and pitch is shocking and neither team should be playing in it. If you hadn’t noticed, Villa aren’t actually playing at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Gerrard's going to get f***** by his own formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, VillaLion63 said: Watching on a stream from Man U tv. They commentated on Mings poor defending for second goal. Unwillingness to match Sancho run. You left out that they said the exact same about Digne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, bobzy said: I find it amazing that people want us to be playing intricate passing on this absolute pudding of a pitch. The other team seem to be coping alright on it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Fine, you gave it a shot against Premier League opposition with a stronger base in Carlos and Kamara. It did not work. If Gerrard doesn't make changes at HT and try something new he's a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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