Jas10 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, MaVilla said: tbh, he may not be a marquee signing, but i am at the point where if he is capable of helping us defend set pieces and high balls with his height, and be stronger than wet lettuce Konsa, im all for giving him a chance. we are too small as a team, having 6ft 4 (Mings) and a 6ft 2/6ft 3 (Bednarek) in central defence, might help us where we are currently quite weak (ie:height/strength/aggression). Might be one of those where the player in isolation isnt "amazing", but his "assets" might help the team overall. who knows, im just trying to see a positive side. Ok but why did we let Hause go? He excels in the air and is a physical, imposing presence. How much better is this guy? All seems to have gone downhill for Kortney him since he scored against Man U! I guess we will have to wait and see… If it’s a low cost loan then I won’t moan too much but I’ll be pissed off if we’re paying a big fee. Expected a lot better tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, MaVilla said: tbh, he may not be a marquee signing, but i am at the point where if he is capable of helping us defend set pieces and high balls with his height, and be stronger than wet lettuce Konsa, im all for giving him a chance. we are too small as a team, having 6ft 4 (Mings) and a 6ft 2/6ft 3 (Bednarek) in central defence, might help us where we are currently quite weak (ie:height/strength/aggression). Might be one of those where the player in isolation isnt "amazing", but his "assets" might help the team overall. who knows, im just trying to see a positive side. You are spot on..thats the reason he is being brought in.he brings height and psychicality into defence that we severely lack..Its why we cant defend against crosses and set pieces. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Hause struggled in the back 3 in the dark last days of DS. He's good to come in for the odd game here and there. Watford was just too good an opportunity I think and hopefully it's one of those deals where if they come straight back up they then sign him for 7m or something as automatic clause. The Diego injury has cleared knackered everything as we'd never have shopped around for another CB if he'd stayed fit so one of those things. TBH I'd rather just sign whatever CB we were planning for next summer now so they have year to settle into prem but guess it's not as straightforward as that. Or just sign this Diallo guy being linked from PSG as that certainly feels like a player with more upwards potential than Bednarek. Akanji is getting linked with Leicester currently so looks like Dortmund want to move him on. Mid 20s and Swiss regular although Dortmund hardly have most effective defensive unit around so don't know if he'd be any good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: You are spot on..thats the reason he is being brought in.he brings height and psychicality into defence that we severely lack..Its why we cant defend against crosses and set pieces. Waits for obligatory Youtube video of Southampton conceding countless goals from set pieces last season. Did he actually play in the 4-0 VP game last season? I remember they parked their defence pretty much on halfway line that day and Coutinho missed about three one on ones in first half just running through them, probably his best game for us. Guy just gives me Zat Knight vibes tbh. Not the worst CB to ever play for us but he had his limitations. Just had a look and he did alongside Jack Stephens so not the most mobile CB combo with Salisu injured that day. Can remember Ollie turning one of them with complete ease for the first goal. Edited August 27, 2022 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: You are spot on..thats the reason he is being brought in.he brings height and psychicality into defence that we severely lack..Its why we cant defend against crosses and set pieces. I bet a team filled with big aggressive blokes still has the potential to concede lots of goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Waits for obligatory Youtube video of Southampton conceding countless goals from set pieces last season. Did he actually play in the 4-0 VP game last season? I remember they parked their defence pretty much on halfway line that day and Coutinho missed about three one on ones in first half just running through them, probably his best game for us. Guy just gives me Zat Knight vibes tbh. Not the worst CB to ever play for us but he had his limitations. Watkins destroyed him that game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Unforseen circumstances or not the Bednarek one is really really poor. Do not get stuck with obligation to buy. He'll probably be a few million for the season, never play and not really noticeable better than Hause , a guy we can't shift and who we gave a new deal with a big payrise this year. It's just muddled thinking. Where's the 20-23 year next up and coming centre back we have lined up, bring it forward, we should have a whole flipping database. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Jas10 said: Ok but why did we let Hause go? He excels in the air and is a physical, imposing presence. How much better is this guy? All seems to have gone downhill for Kortney him since he scored against Man U! I guess we will have to wait and see… If it’s a low cost loan then I won’t moan too much but I’ll be pissed off if we’re paying a big fee. Expected a lot better tbh. because aside from his aerial ability he's not very good. championship level defender. nothing against the guy, scored a goal or 2 for us, but he's not great bednarek is miles better than hause...i think he might end up proving to be better than konsa too you say you expected better, what exactly did you expect? whomever comes in knows that in a few months when diego is back they'll be 3rd choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Unforseen circumstances or not the Bednarek one is really really poor. Do not get stuck with obligation to buy. He'll probably be a few million for the season, never play and not really noticeable better than Hause , a guy we can't shift and who we gave a new deal with a big payrise this year. It's just muddled thinking. Where's the 20-23 year next up and coming centre back we have lined up, bring it forward, we should have a whole flipping database. He himself is being usurped by under 23 players at Southampton. This has a very Senderos feel to it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, tomav84 said: bednarek is miles better than hause...i think he might end up proving to be better than konsa too He’s just not though, Bednarek is very very limited, he’s basically just a tall dude who can’t defend at this level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, nick76 said: He’s just not though, Bednarek is very very limited, he’s basically just a tall dude who can’t defend at this level It is somewhat underwhelming but he is not that bad! He has played lots of games at this level and at international level. He is also coming into a good age for a defender. I think (hope) he may surprise us and actually help to knit our defence together. Interesting that a thread hasn’t been started for him yet though! We all in denial?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Even if people think he’s ok, which I don’t, I can’t believe people are ok with signing Bednarek and thinking we’ll be pushing for 7th to 10th place with signings like this. We’ve been really unlucky with the Carlos injury but we are writing off a season because of an injury to one player with a defender like Bednarek coming in. The quality difference between Carlos and Bednarek is a Grand Canyon size gulf. I’m not expecting Carlos level but if we have any desires this season then surely there was better options out there…this is just woeful. I guess next signing is Barkley, thank god Winks has already gone… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, M_Afro said: It is somewhat underwhelming but he is not that bad! He has played lots of games at this level and at international level. He is also coming into a good age for a defender. I think (hope) he may surprise us and actually help to knit our defence together. Interesting that a thread hasn’t been started for him yet though! We all in denial?! I’ve watched him a lot, I used to laugh at him somewhat when he was playing for Southampton because he was that poor. One of those players that you notice more so than others when you watch, his defending was always off, his tackling was poor, players just go past him easily and always being booked or the ref having a word for another late tackle. To now see we are likely to get him is flabbergasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Were going to be circling the drain soon enough with signings like Bednarek. Europe your having a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, nick76 said: Even if people think he’s ok, which I don’t, I can’t believe people are ok with signing Bednarek and thinking we’ll be pushing for 7th to 10th place with signings like this. We’ve been really unlucky with the Carlos injury but we are writing off a season because of an injury to one player with a defender like Bednarek coming in. The quality difference between Carlos and Bednarek is a Grand Canyon size gulf. I’m not expecting Carlos level but if we have any desires this season then surely there was better options out there…this is just woeful. I guess next signing is Barkley, thank god Winks has already gone… the list of reasons why we're not finishing 7th-10th this season is long, and the bednarek signing is way down on that list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarkLillis Posted August 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) Just can’t understand how everyone knows so much about Bednarek? Just how does a Villa fan know how he played during his time at Southampton? Im a regular at VP and I can’t make my mind up about OUR players……..let alone an obscure Polish centre back that plays for another team. Edited August 27, 2022 by MarkLillis 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 He's already on £60k/w at Southampton. Wonder how much we are going to give him when/if he signs permanently. £70k, £80k, £100k? For a rotation player who is not particularly good or likely to improve. Feels like a MON signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 The Southampton fans reactions of Bednerak remind me of how our own fans were reacting about Mings not too long ago. Many were saying he is not good enough and wanting him replaced. Certain players will always get targeted when a team is struggling. I don’t mind this signing at all. I think he is better than Chambers and Konsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, MarkLillis said: Just can’t understand how everyone knows so much about Bednarek? Just how does a Villa fan know how he played during his time at Southampton? Im a regular at VP and I can’t make my mind up about OUR players……..let alone an obscure Polish centre back that plays for another team. I’m a Southampton fan in my spare time and Polish on the weekends. I can confirm he is not as bad as people are making out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, MarkLillis said: Just can’t understand how everyone knows so much about Bednarek? Just how does a Villa fan know how he played during his time at Southampton? Im a regular at VP and I can’t make my mind up about OUR players……..let alone an obscure Polish centre back that plays for another team. He’s had 5 full seasons in the premier league, not exactly an unknown. With the stats available online and the amount of times you’ll watch other teams it’s easy to have a general opinion about certain players. I’m seriously underwhelmed by the signing. Different circumstances but you’ve got Forrest loaning in an athletico Madrid left back who played 10 champions league games last season with an option to buy, and the best we can do to improve our starting centre back options is loan bednarek? Not having it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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