a-k Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 14 hours ago, calcifer said: In a year where the Saudis are throwing Monday at some bang average players. (Saint Max) We get the county that doesnt want to splash out. Yes his wage bill is off the book, how is that going to help us if we get some more injuries between now and Jan (please don't say it won't happen because look at out awful luck so far) Would have been a useful player to have in the squad. Are you ITK? How do you know that a Saudi club didn't come in for him and he rejected them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Him and Diego have been awful signings. Barely ever available for selection 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasley14 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 9 hours ago, sidcow said: I was thinking this. If this 50% of ANY fee is due to Barca it makes sense to loan him out at say £7m this year, £7m next year and a possible £7m third year gives us £21m and sharing nothing with Barca. Stop the bed wetting folks. Exactly this, if I understand it right we don't pay the 50% for a loan. Clears all the wages too which is a huge part of the burden. We may have even asked for the loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Him and Diego have been awful signings. Barely ever available for selection Diego? Diego Carlos? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Him and Diego have been awful signings. Barely ever available for selection Bit harsh, especially on Carlos. Got a freak injury in his first game and is now working his way back in. Coutinho was a gamble that hasn't paid off after a bright loan spell. I daresay he has helped boost our global exposure though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Diego? Diego Carlos? Yes. If he is never available for selction it's a bad signing. Edited September 5, 2023 by Pinebro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinebro said: Him and Diego have been awful signings. Barely ever available for selection Awful no, unlucky yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mole86 Posted September 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Yes. If he is never available for selction it's a bad signing. Luc Nilis was a waste of a salary as well, when will we learn 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinebro said: Him and Diego have been awful signings. Barely ever available for selection Diego pretty much was never injured prior to joining villa. Think I remember reading something like he missed 5 games in 5 years or something. Just been hit by the Villa curse. Coutinho had injury problems prior to joining so was always a risk there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Yes. If he is never available for selction it's a bad signing. If we get M'bappe and he gets injured 2 games in, is he a bad signing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Diego? Diego Carlos? The jury is still out. Don't pretend it's not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Mic09 said: Diego? Diego Carlos? He's the greatest defender in history, From the Municipality of Barra Bonita, He'll likely leave at the end of his contract on a free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: The jury is still out. Don't pretend it's not I think the jury of him being "an awful" signing is very much settled. He might not be great, he might not be successful. But he is not "awful". Lescott was awful. Diego Carlos (or Coutinho for that matter) are definitely not in the "awful" category. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vazquez Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 hours ago, sidcow said: I was thinking this. If this 50% of ANY fee is due to Barca it makes sense to loan him out at say £7m this year, £7m next year and a possible £7m third year gives us £21m and sharing nothing with Barca. Stop the bed wetting folks. I think Coutinho's annual salary is close to £7M, so we would actually gain £0M in three years, instead of selling him with £20M even if paying 50% to Barca, we would still gain £10M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Mic09 said: I think the jury of him being "an awful" signing is very much settled. He might not be great, he might not be successful. But he is not "awful". Lescott was awful. Diego Carlos (or Coutinho for that matter) are definitely not in the "awful" category. Yeah that's fair. Just not convinced and injuries means still wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted September 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pinebro said: Him and Diego have been awful signings. Barely ever available for selection God I wish Aston Villa could predict the future and all that. If only we had known that a top end defender would immediately get a season ending injury in his first home start for the club after never having one in his entire career before that. Perhaps our next backroom appointment should be Bran the Broken from Game of Thrones, he would be able to tell us whether or not a signing would be "awful" months in advance and save us all the trouble. Edited September 5, 2023 by Steero113 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mic09 said: If we get M'bappe and he gets injured 2 games in, is he a bad signing? Mbappe would generate massive amounts of money through shirt sales so not exactly like for like. Coutinho and Carlos has not contributed on the pitch and are just sucking out wages. On current evidence they are bad signings. Edited September 5, 2023 by Pinebro 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, vazquez said: I think Coutinho's annual salary is close to £7M, so we would actually gain £0M in three years, instead of selling him with £20M even if paying 50% to Barca, we would still gain £10M. Depends if we are still paying his salary. If the loan club are paying his salary, and giving us a loan fee, then we do gain. £7m salary not being spent, plus the loan fee coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyeddie Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Mbappe would generate massive amounts of money through shirt sales so not exactly like for like. Coutinho and Carlos has not contributed on the pitch and are just sucking out wages. On current evidence they are bad signings. Wouldn't Carlos's wages be covered by insurance, as suggested with Mings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Pinebro said: Mbappe would generate massive amounts of money through shirt sales so not exactly like for like. Coutinho and Carlos has not contributed on the pitch and are just sucking out wages. On current evidence they are bad signings. We don't make money through shirt sales. No modern club does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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