Demitri_C Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 10 hours ago, wishywashy said: All that fuss about UEFA rules because we were playing in the same European competition... Vitoria, the buggers, have only gone and gotten eliminated in the 2nd qualifying stage on penalties... by a club from some Slovenian town... Are you **** serious? What a shitshow I expect sawiris may rebuy his shares back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 On 08/07/2023 at 07:41, Rds1983 said: I can wrap my head around not letting us transfer players whilst in the same competition, although I'd challenge consistency on the teams like the Red Bull ones. What I don't understand is why we can't share scouting information? I'm guessing they think it might help with knowing more on opponents but feel that's a stretch. I believe it is to "prevent" Vitoria from buying players that we have identified but deemed not ready for Aston Villa yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Are you **** serious? What a shitshow I expect sawiris may rebuy his shares back I assume the rule was set for the entire season to stop this happening. If they'd said "until they get kicked out" it gives some incentive for them not to try as hard as they might. Set the rule for the season then you eliminate any impact on the sporting element of the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 **** UEFA still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceemo Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Vitoria are set to appoint their third coach this season after firing the second guy this evening. Despite all that, they still sit 7th in the league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) Cant our owners increase their shares again now considering vitoria are out? Edited October 4, 2023 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceemo Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Cant our owners increase their shares again now considering vitoria are out? No they can't have any influence over Vitoria and no transfers directly or indirectly until September 2024. Presumably with the partnership with Zed FC, the plan was possibly to bring some of their youth to Villa and then send them to Vitoria. That now can't be done and players from Zed FC will have to move directly to Villa or Vitoria. For this to work in the long term one of the two clubs will have to miss out on Europe on a consistent basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ceemo said: No they can't have any influence over Vitoria and no transfers directly or indirectly until September 2024. Presumably with the partnership with Zed FC, the plan was possibly to bring some of their youth to Villa and then send them to Vitoria. That now can't be done and players from Zed FC will have to move directly to Villa or Vitoria. For this to work in the long term one of the two clubs will have to miss out on Europe on a consistent basis. Thanks. Just seems ridiculous when chelsea city and Newcastle are doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Thanks. Just seems ridiculous when chelsea city and Newcastle are doing it Brighton and Brentford could do it because they weren't in Europe when Saint Gillious and Midtjland were (both definitely spelled wrong). The ones you mention could do it because the other clubs they own weren't in Europe, or the same competition. Girona were a 2nd Division Spanish side, then there's Melbourne, Mumbai and New York that are all obviously outside Europe. The rules only apply to us and Brighton currently because we're the only clubs breaking them. I imagine the chance of either club getting into Europe was slim but both managed it and now they have to navigate round that. I don't think it will have done too much damage in the short term to plans. Hopefully with our purchase of an Egyptian Club we continue to look into those kind of regions where others haven't stepped up interest. I think maybe a Columbian, Uruguayan or Chilean team would make sense. Just go full on "where you do send FM scouts" mode. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 20 hours ago, Ceemo said: Vitoria are set to appoint their third coach this season after firing the second guy this evening. Despite all that, they still sit 7th in the league this season. They've appointed him with a Peaky Blinders style announcement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Ceemo said: For this to work in the long term one of the two clubs will have to miss out on Europe on a consistent basis. Not entirely. If we qualify for the champions league then vitoria can qualify for the Europa or conference and we'd be fine owning and transferring to them. It works for man city because the clubs they own don't get close to qualifying for the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 14 hours ago, MrBlack said: Not entirely. If we qualify for the champions league then vitoria can qualify for the Europa or conference and we'd be fine owning and transferring to them. It works for man city because the clubs they own don't get close to qualifying for the champions league. Then again if we are both chasing Champions League spots do we tell Vitoria to take a dive and even if we didnt we can be accused of fixing Its best we are out of this rotten situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, Zatman said: Then again if we are both chasing Champions League spots do we tell Vitoria to take a dive and even if we didnt we can be accused of fixing Its best we are out of this rotten situation Just buy clubs in the USA, Middle East, Japan, Australia, various parts of Africa, South America, etc. Thats partly how Man City get round the multi ownership issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ender4 said: Just buy clubs in the USA, Middle East, Japan, Australia, various parts of Africa, South America, etc. Thats partly how Man City get round the multi ownership issues. The advantage of it being a club in a certain EU league is that they'd generate more points for the player that goes there, potentially enabling a work permit to be granted where going elsewhere wouldn't. They still own clubs in europe as well. 2 hours ago, Zatman said: Then again if we are both chasing Champions League spots do we tell Vitoria to take a dive and even if we didnt we can be accused of fixing Its best we are out of this rotten situation Whilst I agree with the sentiment, until it is outlawed and other clubs don't benefit from it, it's one of very few "level playing field" options we have if we want to compete with them. If we abandon this, then combined with our reduced sponsorship we cannot realistically compete. Edited October 5, 2023 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghost Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) Aston Villa is delighted to announce a new collaborative partnership with Japanese club, Vissel Kobe, further strengthening our international network and player development pipeline. Edited October 19, 2023 by blandy Fixed twit link 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 The sun never sets in the V Sports Investments empire 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 19, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2023 we really are going with the V aren't we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 i thought they had a tie with barca, the whole rakuten thing (rakuten own VK) and iniesta going there juan mata plays for them, before him it was iniesta, villa and podolski they need a slight tweak on the colouring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: we really are going with the V aren't we? Who will be next? Veracruz in Mexico? Viking or Valarenga in Norway? Viktoria Plzen in Czechia? Viborg in Denmark? Vancouver Whitecaps in the MLS? the link to the Japanese league is very exciting though! Edited October 19, 2023 by theboyangel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted October 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2023 Vissel are top of J1 so a pretty good team by the looks of that, two of their best U16s are coming to train with us at the end of the month. There's a video statement from Sawiris on the official site 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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