DCJonah Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, penguin said: Indeed. Almost an exact parallel to the main issues levelled at Smith - Giving youth a chance aside, which I don’t think anyone could say he didn’t do. I was just thinking the same. Will be interesting to see how much those issues annoy people now because it's a different manager. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Worth nothing that as a SPL manager, Gerrard had a lot of money to spend… Another valid reason for concern… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, GazRFC said: So I think the first 2 seasons he can be forgiven as he was still building his squad. I do accept that he should maybe have won a cup during they first 2 seasons but Celtic were still stronger. Celtic we’re only a shambles last season, and even at that, they were only a shambles because we made them look like a shambles. We lost 2 disappointing cup ties last season when Celtic were already out so that is disappointing but he said himself he wanted to do better in the cups How we lost the league cup final with Julien scoring and Forster putting on a master class still baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Eastie said: I think the table is still quite tight tho and a couple of wins would see us shoot up several places - I still think 8-10 this season is very attainable - I’m hoping for a similar bounce to when Gregory took over from Little - Gerrard doesn’t take prisoners and anyone not buying into his work ethics will quickly be on their way out - this is the kind of manager needed as I think smith was bit too laid back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jas10 Posted November 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: Well, presumably Dwight Yorke was one of them. Went something like this? 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, GazRFC said: So I think the first 2 seasons he can be forgiven as he was still building his squad. I do accept that he should maybe have won a cup during they first 2 seasons but Celtic were still stronger. Celtic we’re only a shambles last season, and even at that, they were only a shambles because we made them look like a shambles. We lost 2 disappointing cup ties last season when Celtic were already out so that is disappointing but he said himself he wanted to do better in the cups A lot of critics point to the money Gerrard had to spend but as far as I’m aware Celtic still spent more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazRFC Posted November 12, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: A lot of critics point to the money Gerrard had to spend but as far as I’m aware Celtic still spent more. Yeah Celtics spend was still more so no excuses from them really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Adam2003 said: Brighton haven’t won for two months You know what that means... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, KentVillan said: I’d be happy with a 10th place finish. Last year 10th place had 59 points. We currently have 10. 49 points required from 27 games. 1.8 points a game. That would require phenomenal form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Last year 10th place had 59 points. We currently have 10. 49 points required from 27 games. 1.8 points a game. That would require phenomenal form. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Last year 10th place had 59 points. We currently have 10. 49 points required from 27 games. 1.8 points a game. That would require phenomenal form. How many points did the team in 10th place after 11 games have and how many points did the team that got 59 points and eventually finish have after 11 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Still no subs? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: Who were the other 3? Dwight Yorke, Dunga and Doris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Last year 10th place had 59 points. We currently have 10. 49 points required from 27 games. 1.8 points a game. That would require phenomenal form. Though the previous year 53 points would have got 10th and the year before that 52 points got 10th. So only 42 more points needed at 1.55 PPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ender4 said: Though the previous year 53 points would have got 10th and the year before that 52 points got 10th. So only 42 more points needed at 1.55 PPG. And the 2 years before that 44 points and 45 points got 10th! So under 1.3 PPG needed to finish 10th based on those two years! Edited November 12, 2021 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted November 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Last year 10th place had 59 points. We currently have 10. 49 points required from 27 games. 1.8 points a game. That would require phenomenal form. 5 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: How many points did the team in 10th place after 11 games have and how many points did the team that got 59 points and eventually finish have after 11 games? Everton ultimately finished 10th last season on 59 points. After 11 games they were also in 10th place and had 19 points. After 11 games this season, only the top 5 have over 19 points (6th place Man Utd on 17). My point is that I doubt 59 points will be required to finish 10th this season. Finishing in the top ten is possible for Villa and Gerrard this season (and that should be the aim), but I’m not going to hold it against him if the club falls short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, GazRFC said: Yeah Celtics spend was still more so no excuses from them really Would you be confident of him making our midfielders comfortable on the ball, improve our passing game and ball retention? Composure in possession? Were they creating chances with relative ease, in play. Incisive passes, through balls? Did he ever resort to hoofball and did the quality of football ever deteriorate much? How did he manage any slumps in form or poor runs (can’t imagine there were many, and short lived if they were. Due to quality of opposition)? He certainly seems to have done well in Europe, that’s encouraging. Especially because the standard of opposition in the PL is going to be a huge challenge. I just can’t get away from the fact that he never won a cup competition there and only has 1 league title to show for it… despite the impressive achievement of halting Celtic’s dominance… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Just now, Jas10 said: Would you be confident of him making our midfielders comfortable on the ball, improve our passing game and ball retention? Composure in possession? Were they creating chances with relative ease, in play. Incisive passes, through balls? Did he ever resort to hoofball and did the quality of football ever deteriorate much? How did he manage any slumps in form or poor runs (can’t imagine there were many, and short lived if they were. Due to quality of opposition)? He certainly seems to have done well in Europe, that’s encouraging. Especially because the standard of opposition in the PL is going to be a huge challenge. I just can’t get away from the fact that he never won a cup competition there and only has 1 league title to show for it… despite the impressive achievement of halting Celtic’s dominance… Good questions for our Rangers guest. I suspect pretty much every team they went up against bar Celtic and maybe Hearts would park the bus so wouldn’t be easy. But then the standard is also very low too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Eastie said: Tuesday apparently came here looking for the video of the presser and now I have to wait till tuesday? FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted November 12, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Good questions for our Rangers guest. I suspect pretty much every team they went up against bar Celtic and maybe Hearts would park the bus so wouldn’t be easy. But then the standard is also very low too. SJM doesn't want you to forget the mighty hibees... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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