avfc1982am Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Lets just wait and see what lego head can do over the summer. 3-4 additions and we should be in a completely different position. 13th 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 50% of voters (excluding those who said that they wouldn't sack gerrard if we lost 11 games to end the season) said he should be sacked if he didn't get to 46 points. Nine points from the last 11 games of the season is very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, YLN said: 50% of voters (excluding those who said that they wouldn't sack gerrard if we lost 11 games to end the season) said he should be sacked if he didn't get to 46 points. Nine points from the last 11 games of the season is very poor. Hopefully it’s looking positive because he looks like he can bring in quality so if his coaching continues as it is and he’s sacked at least we’ll have a bag full of quality players for the next manager. If he turns it around and he can coach then we are on a winner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Coutinho probably but that's a very specific transfer with a connection to Gerrard. I'm sure Kamara is not turning down other offers on the basis of Gerrard. That's ridiculous. Whatever the reason managers are remembered for their signings. So far Gerrards has been spot on (well until we see Kamara play). How about give him just a little credit instead of hating ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, mrchnry said: Smith hit his ceiling and we all know it. That's why he's in the championship now. Gerrard is a gamble but he's our gamble so we should get behind him until he's at least had a proper transfer window and a pre season. He's in the Championship now because he took over the worst squad in the league mid season (some memorable performances even with that lot). If he'd taken the Everton job for instance, he'd have done better than Lampard! Anyway Gerrard has been meh so far, no great memories or results that overcame the odds or will live long in the memory, hopefully he'll bring that next season. Otherwise, he's completely replaceable. Edited May 23, 2022 by Dale 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Agree but these things are additive - for example part of getting Kamara might have been him seeing Coutinho sign a permanent deal. Or seeing Digne as the France left back come here - and we know from Gerrard that Digne’s first question was “are you signing Coutinho?” Its a lot of factors but at this point he definitely has some pull with names. That said, splashing some money is clearly key as well! The recruitment team has done really well to get some bargains in the transfer market since Gerrard arrived. Coutinho for 17m, Kamara free, Chambers free and proven quality with Digne at 20m. If we recruit 3-4 more on the same level in the summer then Gerrard will have no excuses for not getting a solid top half finish next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Coutinho probably but that's a very specific transfer with a connection to Gerrard. I'm sure Kamara is not turning down other offers on the basis of Gerrard. That's ridiculous. This says different, Literally joined because of Gerrard, my point stands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted May 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, spiezels said: This says different, Literally joined because of Gerrard, my point stands. Damn. Makes a change from the usual "Yeah I couldn't give a flying **** who the gaffer is, they're usually sacked in 18 months, I'm here for the PL and the dosh" interview lol Edited May 23, 2022 by rodders0223 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Damn. Makes a change from the usual "Yeah I couldn't give a flying **** who the gaffer is, they're usually sacked in 18 months, I'm here for the PL and the dosh" interview lol Haha! Aye. Still doesn’t change the fact this lad wouldn’t have come if we still had deano in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Someone was saying in a different thread that Gerrard only signs old players, so here's analysis of Gerrards signing's vs the previous window before Gerrard arrived: Gerrard (outfield players only for fair comparison): Coutinho - 29 Chambers - 26 Digne - 28 Kamara - 22 Average age - 26 years old and the window before Gerrard arrived: Ings - 29 Buendia - 24 Bailey - 24 Young - 36 Average age - 28 years old. So Gerrard is actually opting for younger players! *yes, i know the comparison is flawed in many ways, not serious analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, ender4 said: Someone was saying in a different thread that Gerrard only signs old players, so here's analysis of Gerrards signing's vs the previous window before Gerrard arrived: Gerrard (outfield players only for fair comparison): Coutinho - 29 Chambers - 26 Digne - 28 Kamara - 22 Average age - 26 years old and the window before Gerrard arrived: Ings - 29 Buendia - 24 Bailey - 24 Young - 36 Average age - 28 years old. So Gerrard is actually opting for younger players! *yes, i know the comparison is flawed in many ways, not serious analysis. Also Gerrard signed Olsen while in the summer we also signed Axel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 6 hours ago, AV82 said: ..and if he does attract those players (he already has to be fair) then regardless of how we start the new season we'll be in a better position than we are now so I suppose it's a win-win situation for us. It really is. This is one of the major reasons I will have patience with him. That and him actually getting a pre-season to properly work his ideas into the squad with some PL experience in the bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, ender4 said: Someone was saying in a different thread that Gerrard only signs old players, so here's analysis of Gerrards signing's vs the previous window before Gerrard arrived: Gerrard (outfield players only for fair comparison): Coutinho - 29 Chambers - 26 Digne - 28 Kamara - 22 Average age - 26 years old and the window before Gerrard arrived: Ings - 29 Buendia - 24 Bailey - 24 Young - 36 Average age - 28 years old. So Gerrard is actually opting for younger players! *yes, i know the comparison is flawed in many ways, not serious analysis. Aye just goes to show. Gerrard is threatened by senior players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, spiezels said: Haha! Aye. Still doesn’t change the fact this lad wouldn’t have come if we still had deano in charge. Yeah he probably had a look at Gerrard's record of getting 9 points from the last 11 games of the season and thought, yeah he's the manager that will bring my career to the next level. Or maybe Gerrard told him he'd get him a ten million pound signing on fee, and that 'changed everything'. This narrative of Gerrard being a draw for players is likely nonsense, outside of the Coutinho signing obviously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, YLN said: Yeah he probably had a look at Gerrard's record of getting 9 points from the last 11 games of the season and thought, yeah he's the manager that will bring my career to the next level. Or maybe Gerrard told him he'd get him a ten million pound signing on fee, and that 'changed everything'. This narrative of Gerrard being a draw for players is likely nonsense, outside of the Coutinho signing obviously. This is not true. Good players know of Gerrard, being a top player himself and many will look up to him, especially the up and coming youngsters around Europe. He may not seem like a great all round manager, but what young midfielder would not want to be mentored by him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Gerrard surely has more pull than Smith, but neither can compare to proven coaches like Tuchel or Guardiola. Having a famous manager is great, but someone who can promise to improve you is even better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, YLN said: Yeah he probably had a look at Gerrard's record of getting 9 points from the last 11 games of the season and thought, yeah he's the manager that will bring my career to the next level. Or maybe Gerrard told him he'd get him a ten million pound signing on fee, and that 'changed everything'. This narrative of Gerrard being a draw for players is likely nonsense, outside of the Coutinho signing obviously. Did you not watch the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Talldarkandransome said: Grey, balled or sacked Sounds like the title of a terrible porno. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Aye just goes to show. Gerrard is threatened by senior players. This is pretty good to be fair. LMAO Credit where it's due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: This is not true. Good players know of Gerrard, being a top player himself and many will look up to him, especially the up and coming youngsters around Europe. He may not seem like a great all round manager, but what young midfielder would not want to be mentored by him. If thats the case then we be fighting off Palace and Everton for players since they have big name ex midfielders as manager Palace should be attracting all the best young French players if was the case. Its obvious money talks here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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