bobzy Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: He has won just one league title while being involved in one of the highest manager transfers ever. The argument could be aimed at him as well as RDZ for me One league title, 3 cups (1 with Braga, 2 with Sporting), 4 cup finals in a row, reached the EL QF by knocking out Arsenal, on course to win the league this season. Apparently also the fastest manager to reach 50 Portuguese league wins. Sporting aren't exactly a minnow in Portugal, but very much the 3rd biggest team. He's doing a very good job there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted April 25 Author Share Posted April 25 Ouch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Certainly limping to the end of the season now. I thought they'd pick up again after exiting Europa but hasn't happened. Their transfer strategy is rightly lauded but I think last few months have shown the drawbacks of it. If I'm right they replaced Caciedo and Alexis Mac with Dahoud (clearly didn't settle and now back in Bundesliga), Baleba (promising but just a kid) and Lallana?!!!! Milner would probably be playing central midfield if he was fit currently. Gilmour was doing o.k but that's a real downgrade in a key part of the pitch and why De Zerbi is moaning so much so a little chink and we'll see what they do in the next window as the spark has gone from their play big time and this is how teams slowly fall back down the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 26 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Certainly limping to the end of the season now. I thought they'd pick up again after exiting Europa but hasn't happened. Their transfer strategy is rightly lauded but I think last few months have shown the drawbacks of it. If I'm right they replaced Caciedo and Alexis Mac with Dahoud (clearly didn't settle and now back in Bundesliga), Baleba (promising but just a kid) and Lallana?!!!! Milner would probably be playing central midfield if he was fit currently. Gilmour was doing o.k but that's a real downgrade in a key part of the pitch and why De Zerbi is moaning so much so a little chink and we'll see what they do in the next window as the spark has gone from their play big time and this is how teams slowly fall back down the premier league. You can only keep the conveyor belt running flawlessly for so long. It was bound to happen at some point. They had a good run though. Played against the likes of Ajax and Roma in Europe too, who'd have thought this when we were both slugging it out under Hughton and Bruce not so long ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 7 hours ago, Keyblade said: You can only keep the conveyor belt running flawlessly for so long. It was bound to happen at some point. They had a good run though. Played against the likes of Ajax and Roma in Europe too, who'd have thought this when we were both slugging it out under Hughton and Bruce not so long ago? eventually you'll buy nzogbia... but the bigger problem based on what the commentators were saying last night seems to be that the next wave of youngsters aren't playing that much, barco who was an exciting signing in January made his first start (and didn't look ready) the young belgian keeper has only played 50% of the games, encisco has 3 starts, ferguson has 15 starts, baleba 13 starts - there's every danger they will be good players but they arent there yet not sure if they're doing a bit of a wolves where they dropped off slightly because they bought players who were young prospects but ultimately a little too young and needed time or maybe looking at the team you could even say none of them are really playing every week in a settled team, they have 5 players with 20+ league starts - we have 10 (and bailey on 19) after all that i still think they just need a goalscorer, welbeck being their starting striker is a problem they need to fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Ansu Fati has flopped aswell, came in with huge expectations and think he's started about five games. One of those seasons though where if Man. United, Newcastle and Chelsea all moan they've dropped down the league due to having ten injuries then Brighton will certainly drop down the league having ten injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 13 hours ago, The_Steve said: Ouch They've never recovered from the battering we gave them. 5 wins in 6 before we beat them, 6 wins in 27 after. Yet i'm told RDZ is an elite manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: after all that i still think they just need a goalscorer, welbeck being their starting striker is a problem they need to fix Joao Pedro is presumably meant to be that player? He's done relatively well this season (from memory), but is still young and improving etc. 17 minutes ago, duke313 said: Yet i'm told RDZ is an elite manager. Who told you this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bobzy said: Who told you this? The media, linking him with Liverpool, United, Bayern, Barca jobs etc. Edited April 26 by duke313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, bobzy said: Joao Pedro is presumably meant to be that player? He's done relatively well this season (from memory), but is still young and improving etc. Not seen enough of him to be honest but I thought he was more of one of these goalscoring wide men rather than a proper number 9 They need Ferguson to come good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, duke313 said: The media, linking him with Liverpool, United, Bayern, Barca jobs etc. That doesn't equate to someone being an elite manager - it's just where the links are being made. Is Arne Slot an elite manager? No. But he might be well suited to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, duke313 said: The media, linking him with Liverpool, United, Bayern, Barca jobs etc. His agent linking him with those jobs to keep them dropping off quiet But that said for as good as Brighton have been and for how much climbing they've done are they really in a position where a drop off to say 10th this season is something to sharpen the pitch forks over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: But that said for as good as Brighton have been and for how much climbing they've done are they really in a position where a drop off to say 10th this season is something to sharpen the pitch forks over? No, but football is ridiculous. We could easily finish 8th or something next season and not get to a quarter final in any competition - it's just how football is when you're not the absolute elite. If that happened, pitch forks shouldn't be out for Emery either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted Friday at 14:32 Share Posted Friday at 14:32 2 hours ago, bobzy said: That doesn't equate to someone being an elite manager - it's just where the links are being made. Is Arne Slot an elite manager? No. But he might be well suited to Liverpool. The media hasn't linked Slot with a load of top jobs though, that's just who Liverpool want. None of these teams are actually interested in RDZ, but his name is constantly thrown in the hat. for every big job going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted Friday at 14:37 Share Posted Friday at 14:37 4 minutes ago, duke313 said: The media hasn't linked Slot with a load of top jobs though, that's just who Liverpool want. None of these teams are actually interested in RDZ, but his name is constantly thrown in the hat. for every big job going. Slot has been linked to Chelsea, Spurs and also Barcelona in recent times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted Friday at 16:22 Share Posted Friday at 16:22 They've had their fair share of injuries too. Enciso was out for ages, only just back. Started his 3rd game of the season. Mitoma and March have been out a while now. March has played 7 games this season. Webster has played 9 games. Estupinan was out for a while too. All of these players are key players who would start most games if fit. There's just no consistency for them, only three players have started over 20 games. Partly De Zerbi's fault too as he likes to rotate even without injuries, but some of the replacements just aren't good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted Sunday at 13:05 Share Posted Sunday at 13:05 On 07/09/2023 at 18:41, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Just another Brighton transfer which looks like being very shrewd. 18 year old striker Mark O'Mahoney was signed from Cork City for £50,000, he is banging them in for there u21s in the PL2 this season. I can see him stepping up in time. We really need to do more League of Ireland shopping. Makes his first PL start today, not bad for business for £50,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted Sunday at 15:04 Author Share Posted Sunday at 15:04 Another big defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted Sunday at 15:10 Share Posted Sunday at 15:10 Hope they are still cack next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted Sunday at 15:20 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 15:20 You know what's with team in shit form and who best to play against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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