Mazrim Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Stop putting starting Villa players in Arsenal's team and approving. I'm going to fall out with some of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Mazrim said: Stop putting starting Villa players in Arsenal's team and approving. I'm going to fall out with some of you. There's a reason we're 11th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Delphinho123 said: There's a reason we're 11th. Yeah, we started shit. Looking a lot better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: It was never happening. Not sure why he was ever mentioned Because we wanted to take him from the Toon to be able to rub their noses in it. Its as good a reason as any to sign a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: There's a reason we're 11th. VT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 transfer market been a bit slow in general. Starting to think football clubs are more like me than I ever knew and they are waiting til payday tomorrow so they can start spending again. January has been a looong month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, Mazrim said: Yeah, we started shit. Looking a lot better now. As harsh as it may seem, we're probably not going to finish in the top 6 with a midfield 3 of Luiz, McGinn and Ramsey. That means we need to improve in this area. I took the clubs comments on Luiz this week as a sure sign that he is probably going to leave. The fact they talk about him being able to go up a gear or two and not discussing a contract yet highlights that he isn't a key player for them. I like Luiz, I think he's a tidy no.6, and I think he will get better, but we shouldn't be scared about selling players for top dollar and not improving. The people running this club are not idiots. That goes for McGinn too (I really like McGinn). If an offer of £50m+ came in for him, we can improve by taking the money and reinvesting. These players aren't Jack Grealish, there are better out there that I believe we could attract. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: transfer market been a bit slow in general. Starting to think football clubs are more like me than I ever knew and they are waiting til payday tomorrow so they can start spending again. January has been a looong month I think most clubs have probably got their best negotiators working on deals to sort their energy bills out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mazrim Posted January 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: As harsh as it may seem, we're probably not going to finish in the top 6 with a midfield 3 of Luiz, McGinn and Ramsey. That means we need to improve in this area. I took the clubs comments on Luiz this week as a sure sign that he is probably going to leave. The fact they talk about him being able to go up a gear or two and not discussing a contract yet highlights that he isn't a key player for them. I like Luiz, I think he's a tidy no.6, and I think he will get better, but we shouldn't be scared about selling players for top dollar and not improving. The people running this club are not idiots. That goes for McGinn too (I really like McGinn). If an offer of £50m+ came in for him, we can improve by taking the money and reinvesting. These players aren't Jack Grealish, there are better out there that I believe we could attract. We're not going to finish top 6 if we sell 23 year old Brazil internationals to some shithouse Premier League rival before they have a chance to play in their natural position and years before there in their prime either. If we got a £50m bid for McGinn I'd bite their hand off, and I don't want to lose him either. But I'd keep Luiz if I had a choice of the 2. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mazrim said: We're not going to finish top 6 if we sell 23 year old Brazil internationals to some shithouse Premier League rival before they have a chance to play in their natural position and years before there in their prime either. If we got a £50m bid for McGinn I'd bite their hand off, and I don't want to lose him either. But I'd keep Luiz if I had a choice of the 2. Fair enough. Personally, I don't see him as an 8 at all. I don't think he's dynamic enough. I feel as though the 6 role suits him more. (could be completely wrong). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: As harsh as it may seem, we're probably not going to finish in the top 6 with a midfield 3 of Luiz, McGinn and Ramsey. That means we need to improve in this area. I took the clubs comments on Luiz this week as a sure sign that he is probably going to leave. The fact they talk about him being able to go up a gear or two and not discussing a contract yet highlights that he isn't a key player for them. I like Luiz, I think he's a tidy no.6, and I think he will get better, but we shouldn't be scared about selling players for top dollar and not improving. The people running this club are not idiots. That goes for McGinn too (I really like McGinn). If an offer of £50m+ came in for him, we can improve by taking the money and reinvesting. These players aren't Jack Grealish, there are better out there that I believe we could attract. I don’t agree with this in it’s entirety, but the basic principle of “everyone has a price” and few players are irreplaceable is correct. I think that possibly some players are more valuable to us because of what they give overall to the spirit of the squad and how they’re view by both us as fans and the outside world. The drawing a line with some player as far as retaining them can sometimes send out a message. I’m probably thinking more of SJM, rather than perhaps someone like Dougie in this respect. As you say, we’re well run now and selling our better players because we were bullied into it and replacing them with, on the whole, inferior players, are hopefully now largely a thing of the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Wes said: Evening Standard - Arsenal considering Douglas Luiz. Villa have already turned down a £30m bid from a Premier League team (not Arsenal) for him this window. Related to our search for a Centre Mid. I’d want 40 million before I would consider it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mazrim said: We're not going to finish top 6 if we sell 23 year old Brazil internationals to some shithouse Premier League rival before they have a chance to play in their natural position and years before there in their prime either. If we got a £50m bid for McGinn I'd bite their hand off, and I don't want to lose him either. But I'd keep Luiz if I had a choice of the 2. For whatever reason Gerrard has implied that Dougie isn’t giving it 100% and the club hasn’t opened new contract negotiations with him. SG won’t tolerate passengers so any squad member trying to coast will get potted in short order. If the manager wants to replace Luiz with Bentancur, or Boubacar Kamara, or Glen Kamara (!) that’s fine with me. He wants to win and knows how to do it. Edited January 27, 2022 by Awol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Fair enough. Personally, I don't see him as an 8 at all. I don't think he's dynamic enough. I feel as though the 6 role suits him more. (could be completely wrong). I'm the same. I appreciate what people are saying re: the Man City performance in that more advanced position, but I'd need to see a bigger sample size first because as far as I'm concerned he's played in both positions for Villa and his best, most consistent performances have been as a 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Awol said: For whatever reason Gerrard has implied that Dougie isn’t giving it 100% and the club hasn’t opened new contract negotiations with him. There’s no passengers on SG’a Villa bus so any squad member trying to coast will get potted in short order. If the manager wants to replace Luiz with Bentancur, or Boubacar Kamara, or Glen Kamara (!) that’s fine with me. He wants to win and knows how to do it. Has he? I think that's a reach. He's suggested that he's done OK and there's more to come (naturally, he's 23) and that he's been filling in at 6 when he'd rather play 8. He does need replacing at 6. I don't agree that means he leaves though as he's cover for that position, plus easily worth considering for one of the other 2 8 positions. Especially when one of the 8s has to help out the 6. I know Gerrard knows what he's doing. I'm not sure where this notion of not giving it 100% has come from though. If that we're the case, I massively doubt he'd start him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Has he? I think that's a reach. He's suggested that he's done OK and there's more to come (naturally, he's 23) and that he's been filling in at 6 when he'd rather play 8. He does need replacing at 6. I don't agree that means he leaves though as he's cover for that position, plus easily worth considering for one of the other 2 8 positions. Especially when one of the 8s has to help out the 6. I know Gerrard knows what he's doing. I'm not sure where this notion of not giving it 100% has come from though. If that we're the case, I massively doubt he'd start him. Reading between the lines that’s what I take ‘he’s done okay’ and ‘he’s got one or two more gears to go’ to mean, in the context of not having opened contract negotiations. They’re small hints, but I think they are hints. I’m happy for him to stay and fight for the 8 spot too, but if by Monday night it’s Bentancur & B Kamara in, with Dougie out.. that’s a great trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I’m bored of it all now, just want to get past the window and focus on the second half of the season. Would love a quality DM, hope something happens, if nothing happens so be it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Awol said: Reading between the lines that’s what I take ‘he’s done okay’ and ‘he’s got one or two more gears to go’ to mean, in the context of not having opened contract negotiations. They’re small hints, but I think they are hints. I’m happy for him to stay and fight for the 8 spot too, but if by Monday night it’s Bentancur & B Kamara in, with Dougie out.. that’s a great trade. Both of them in and Luiz out? Yeah, I'd take that. Nakamba would be a bit miffed mind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Both of them in and Luiz out? Yeah, I'd take that. Nakamba would be a bit miffed mind. Marv is just happy to be here. Smashing bloke by all accounts and building Zimbabwe’s most impressive pension pot. More power to him, I say. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicRic Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 26/01/2022 at 13:06, Jas10 said: I don’t think we should overlook the initial impact Barkley had for us… Yes, it didn’t work out for various reasons (including Covid and injuries, which hit us hard and badly disrupted our season). We were flying at the start of that season, I refuse to ignore and forget thrashing Liverpool (never forget!) and Arsenal for instance. That 7-2 was better than any orgasm we will never forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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