Vive_La_Villa Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Have we given up on finding gems? All our targets are very obvious ones Finding gems means giving them time to show what they can do. Could even take a season or so. Along with that comes the risk they flop. Are you going to allow them that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: I read that as Juventus and Palace wanting to loan our Aaron Ramsey. Monday morning is clearly breaking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The Ramsey noise is surely just the plan B. plan C enquiries we'd have put out at the same time as going for Coutinho - most likely true but also now completely out of date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyjsg Posted January 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I'm not talking about 16 year olds. Talking about gems like McGinn for instance. I'm sure we will, but they are rare in reality - you tend to only get one or two a season across the whole league. I would say this season only the attacker at Watford comes to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Doing an Everton Gonna be really hard to pretend we are not, at least if we also go after what remains of Aaron Ramsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, sne said: Doing an Everton Gonna be really hard to pretend we are not, at least if we also go after what remains of Aaron Ramsey Yes, seems a bit of a worry. Wage bill will have ballooned this window with Ramsey added. Someone said it earlier, perhaps we are looking at high quality loans so as to improve the team now, bit not block progression of our youngsters? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, sne said: Doing an Everton Gonna be really hard to pretend we are not, at least if we also go after what remains of Aaron Ramsey Ramsey will be a disgraceful signing and again further about the lack of imagination at the current time. Probably bring in Gary Cahill at centre back to replace Axel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Just out of interest, if both were available for £40m, who would you prefer… Kalvin Phillips or Yves Bissouma? Bissouma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 11 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Just out of interest, if both were available for £40m, who would you prefer… Kalvin Phillips or Yves Bissouma? Would be absolutley over the moon with either. I think Phillips in some ways fits the team/culture position we are after better but I actually think Bissouma has the higher ceiling. Given Phillips seems hugely unlikely and Bissouma seems is available (even for a very high price) you'd have to swing Bissouma's way (assuming the club has satisfied itself on the legal issue). Still difficult to believe either will happen but its a crazy Jan so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I don’t even think we need Aaron Ramsey to be honest. I don’t believe that story one bit. Like someone said maybe he was plan b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaJay Posted January 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2022 I really can't understand some people! We're potentially signing Coutinho and Digne, 2 players better than anyone we currently have in those respective positions and people are moaning. Both are 28/29 the absolute prime age for a footballer and both proven PL players. We have one of the youngest squads in the PL, we need experience to push on now or it will be another few seasons hoping our youngsters hit their prime and then get poached by the super clubs. This time we're buying the players in their prime, we have already bought plenty of younger gems that have improved in value in Luiz, McGinn, Cash, Watkins, Konsa and more. If we want to seriously progress, we need proven talent now and start introducing the next gen into the team - Carney, Bidace, Ramsay, Kesler etc., If you said to me 2 weeks ago we could potentially have Coutinho and Digne in the Jan window, I'd of said that's optimistic! Add Bissouma and it's the best window we've had since Summer 95 for me. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: I don’t even think we need Aaron Ramsey to be honest. I don’t believe that story one bit. Like someone said maybe he was plan b. That's got Newcastle all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Finding gems means giving them time to show what they can do. Could even take a season or so. Along with that comes the risk they flop. Are you going to allow them that time? he's not 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, VillaJay said: I really can't understand some people! We're potentially signing Coutinho and Digne, 2 players better than anyone we currently have in those respective positions and people are moaning. Both are 28/29 the absolute prime age for a footballer and both proven PL players. We have one of the youngest squads in the PL, we need experience to push on now or it will be another few seasons hoping our youngsters hit their prime and then get poached by the super clubs. This time we're buying the players in their prime, we have already bought plenty of younger gems that have improved in value in Luiz, McGinn, Cash, Watkins, Konsa and more. If we want to seriously progress, we need proven talent now and start introducing the next gen into the team - Carney, Bidace, Ramsay, Kesler etc., If you said to me 2 weeks ago we could potentially have Coutinho and Digne in the Jan window, I'd of said that's optimistic! Add Bissouma and it's the best window we've had since Summer 95 for me. I was 13…. What happened in 95? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Have we given up on finding gems? All our targets are very obvious ones Bloody good ones though. Why find gems when you can buy ready made ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Bloody good ones though. Why find gems when you can buy ready made ones. He is right they are obvious ones as I would have said they are obviously going to be going to one of the top 6 clubs. However they are going to us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Bloody good ones though. Why find gems when you can buy ready made ones. I remember Purslow saying when we got promoted, the first couple of years will be about building a squad and after that it will be adding a couple of top quality players every season to kick us on. We are starting the lateral now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rosk Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: I was 13…. What happened in 95? Draper Savo and Southgate. I must have watched that Season Review on VHS over 100 times growing up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, sne said: Doing an Everton Gonna be really hard to pretend we are not, at least if we also go after what remains of Aaron Ramsey Doing a Fulham last season, Doing an Everton this season, Doing a Chelsea/City next season? Continuous improvement, I'll take that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rosk Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I can't actually believe we may have Coutinho and Digne this window. The pessimist in me is screaming this is going to fail. But in reality they are very good footballers on a level significantly above what we have. This is superb. We need to get dead wood out ASAP. I really do believe in the potential of a lot of our youth players so keeping the likes of AEG/Trez is only going to make it worse for them and we could end up in a Cahill-type situation where they blossom elsewhere as a result of our own blinkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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