ChesterDad Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 hours ago, brummybloke said: Andy gray could hit a ball hard and head a ball hard. His bravery got him many goals. Could Andy gray sprint passed players, dribbling the ball and cut inside before beating the keeper ? Nope is the honest answer. He was like shearer or shearer was like Andy gray. Known for finishing. Not for being a talented footballer ( clearly they both were but their talent was scoring and hold up play, talent now is mainly judged on other aspects of the game). With all due respect how often does Watkins do the things you speak of successfully ? He might try but he is not very good at this imo. Andy was brave, good in the air, had footballing nous, and his lay off’s were also very good, in todays climate, he would be worth around £80mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 14 hours ago, brummybloke said: The skillfull players need hard players to protect them so they can produce the goods. Mcginn is neither here no there and would work in a different formation. As it stands mcginn and Ramsey don't click, too simular. I agree , with that bit......but even that falls on deaf ears, in some quarters. To be fair....Emi does show a bit of tenacity, and lets them know, he there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, ChesterDad said: TRO - please don’t take this personally, but are you serious in saying Watkins is more talented than Andy Gray was? how have you arrived at this conclusion - Watkins couldn’t trap a medicine ball and when it comes to bravery - well please. You simply cannot compare Watkins in any aspect of the game In some aspects, I would say he was.....my point was Andy was effective, he was not renowned for his talent, his bravery, courage, willingness to win, desire, Brian Little was far more talented....were the prime hallmarks of his success. We sometimes, over rate talent......talent on its own, is only half way there.....but some fans, harp on about it, as if its the be all and end all, and as long as its there, we are home and dry......and no we are not.....application is equally as important. Edited October 9, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) His comments on Buendia are pathetic and remind me of Southgate on Grealish which also pissed me off. Edited October 9, 2022 by Dodgyknees 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dodgyknees said: His comments on Buendia are pathetic and remind me of Southgate on Grealish which also pissed me off. what did he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 6 hours ago, TRO said: In some aspects, I would say he was.....my point was Andy was effective, he was not renowned for his talent, his bravery, courage, willingness to win, desire, Brian Little was far more talented....were the prime hallmarks of his success. We sometimes, over rate talent......talent on its own, is only half way there.....but some fans, harp on about it, as if its the be all and end all, and as long as its there, we are home and dry......and no we are not.....application is equally as important. What evidence do you have to suggest that Emi lacks these attributes? It's utter nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Vancvillan said: What evidence do you have to suggest that Emi lacks these attributes? It's utter nonsense. The evidence is liking the manager. It would be a different response for a player dropped by Smith. And I remember the players being blamed for Bruce being god awful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Not even shocked, clueless 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Ah yes, because Philippe Coutinho has been the paragon of consistency. He's certainly not being handed starts because he's Villa's biggest signing in recent memory (and the manager's mate). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Ridiculous. I cannot wait for the news that this idiot has been sacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 You might be waiting awhile yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa87 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: You might be waiting awhile yet... That’s just it isn’t it. I think he is safe as it stands. I cannot believe the nepotism in constantly persevering with Coutinho and Bailey over Buendia. Villa fans see this - sing for Buendia every game to inject some energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: You might be waiting awhile yet... We will see. Unless you're actually Purslow and know more than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted October 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2022 Hoping to stumble upon the right ‘blend’ instead of just coaching them. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: Not even shocked, clueless This is actually a sackable offence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 8 hours ago, TRO said: In some aspects, I would say he was.....my point was Andy was effective, he was not renowned for his talent, his bravery, courage, willingness to win, desire, Brian Little was far more talented....were the prime hallmarks of his success. We sometimes, over rate talent......talent on its own, is only half way there.....but some fans, harp on about it, as if its the be all and end all, and as long as its there, we are home and dry......and no we are not.....application is equally as important. TRO - I do rate your opinion on all matters Villa - but I have no idea what you are saying here? There is absolutely no way you can put Watkins in the same conversation as Andy Gray. Gary Shaw, Peter Withe, Dion Dublin, Dean Saunders are all players I would be happy to see put in the same mould as Andy - but Watkins ? You are having a laugh surely? Watkins is average at best. Maybe Dean had what it takes to bring the best out of Watkins and get him playing above himself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Yep. He's an idiot. As I've said, he doesn't understand what he's watching. Never ever going to make it as a manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 With Bailey injured and also being quite average it is surely time for Buendia to play. On his day I think he offers so much more in attack and defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted October 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Tom13 said: Ridiculous. I cannot wait for the news that this idiot has been sacked! No time soon Tom, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hev Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Since when did Buendia become the Saviour and Coutinho the Devil Incarnate? They are not enemies. They appear to be good mates and socialise a lot . Why does it have to be like this on VT. Surely they shoud both be starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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