Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 We have got it under us to play some exciting stuff as shown against Southampton and leeds. We just need to see it abit more consistently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Curious, what style of football do people want to see? People complain that Brighton’s style is boring, Man City robotic, Burnley turgid. I would guess people want Liverpools style? I enjoyed our football last season, but alas I was only watching on tv, might be different in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Curious, what style of football do people want to see? People complain that Brighton’s style is boring, Man City robotic, Burnley turgid. I would guess people want Liverpools style? I enjoyed our football last season, but alas I was only watching on tv, might be different in the stands. Personally I want to see progression - I don't want to see us go a goal up and then see out the game. I d like to see a bit confidence that we can get a second or even 3rd goals. We seemed to play within ourselves at times last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Are we really a dour team though? I don’t get why people are saying this. I think the issue is we have become much more of a compact side under Gerrard and as such create less. Until we become more clinical in front of goal in this system I think dour/boring etc, will be banded about at times. I would still like to see more width from an attacking point of view as I think we restrict ourselves in the final third and lose an element of creativity. However, that being said if we start winning by the odd goal more often than not, however boring to some, I won't be complaining. I just want to see us become winners again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Curious, what style of football do people want to see? People complain that Brighton’s style is boring, Man City robotic, Burnley turgid. I would guess people want Liverpools style? I enjoyed our football last season, but alas I was only watching on tv, might be different in the stands. attacking football and taking the game to teams from the kick off. We have an attacking talent of Coutinho, Ings, Bailey, Buendia, Digne, Cash, McGinn, Ramsey, Watkins and a few more yet we struggle to attack teams. Spurs game was really a rare exception. While Brisbane was a friendly it was still the same old shit as last season Nobody is expecting us to win every game but at least entertain us while getting us 14th spot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: attacking football and taking the game to teams from the kick off. We have an attacking talent of Coutinho, Ings, Bailey, Buendia, Digne, Cash, McGinn, Ramsey, Watkins and a few more yet we struggle to attack teams. Spurs game was really a rare exception. While Brisbane was a friendly it was still the same old shit as last season Nobody is expecting us to win every game but at least entertain us while getting us 14th spot You mean we struggle to break teams down? If that is still the case by half way through the season and we are in the bottom half of the table I agree with you Gerrard is the wrong man for the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You mean we struggle to break teams down? If that is still the case by half way through the season and we are in the bottom half of the table I agree with you Gerrard is the wrong man for the job. attack in general with a pattern instead of hope Coutinho or Buendia or Ramsey bails us out with a bit of magic. Arsenal at home and Liverpool away were 2 gutless performances and we played for a narrow loss, Newcastle we barely had an attack either 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 We need to control games for 90 minutes. I don’t care if we don’t see attacking football all the time, you don’t get that unless you’re a Man City or Liverpool fan. I want to see us beat teams like Palace at home 2-0 and the result to never be in doubt. You need to get to that level before you think about attacking for 90 mins relentlessly. Too many times last year we were good for 45 minutes and poor the next. Consistency and control is key. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: attack in general with a pattern instead of hope Coutinho or Buendia or Ramsey bails us out with a bit of magic. Arsenal at home and Liverpool away were 2 gutless performances and we played for a narrow loss, Newcastle we barely had an attack either Agree with Arsenal at home. Liverpool at Anfield are on another level. To use that game as a criticism is harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Agree with Arsenal at home. Liverpool at Anfield are on another level. To use that game as a criticism is harsh. again not saying we should win but we were time wasting after 15 minutes. Liverpool fans say we are the worst team to visit Anfield as we made no effort to try and Norwich and Brentford gave them a better game there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: again not saying we should win but we were time wasting after 15 minutes. Liverpool fans say we are the worst team to visit Anfield as we made no effort to try and Norwich and Brentford gave them a better game there Liverpool fans are f*****g idiots. It was one of Gerrards early games. Last thing a new manager needs is a spanking. Edited July 21, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Liverpool fans are f******k idiots. Leave Gerrard alone 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Premier League ball in play 2021-22 Team Minutes Seconds Manchester City 60 53 Tottenham Hotspur 57 2 Liverpool 57 0 Chelsea 56 39 Manchester United 56 26 West Ham 56 19 Wolves 56 9 Arsenal 56 1 Brighton 55 47 Leicester 55 21 Norwich 54 48 Crystal Palace 54 24 Watford 53 49 Everton 53 28 Brentford 53 10 Newcastle 52 58 Leeds 52 53 Burnley 52 47 Southampton 52 42 Aston Villa 52 23 Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'? - BBC Sport 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: attack in general with a pattern instead of hope Coutinho or Buendia or Ramsey bails us out with a bit of magic. Arsenal at home and Liverpool away were 2 gutless performances and we played for a narrow loss, Newcastle we barely had an attack either I think that stems from the fact that our midfield didn't retain the ball well enough and so they and, as a result, the defenders try and get the ball forward too quickly. That meant that the balls into Couts and Emi2 don't play to their strengths. Watkins and Ings are also not good target men - pumping 50 yards passes into them is not what either of them need. Watkins isn't strong enough to protect the ball until support arrives when it is pumped into him and he has his back to goal. Ings is better at trying to make the run past the defender to get on the end of a ball slipped through to him. If we can control the ball in the middle of the park then hopefully Couts and Emi2 will start receiving more balls in the right part of the pitch to their feet rather than coming through to them via the aerial route. I think this is what Gerrard wants to do - and when our midfield do gain control then we can look very good. But when our midfield are pushed back and struggling to keep hold of the ball then we quickly revert to the pump the ball down the channels for Watkins to chase. Kamara might help Luiz / McGinn / JJ to play a bit further forward but I'm still worried that between two of those three we will still struggle to build attacks through the midfield and that when we lose the ball then Kamara will get exposed as they don't track back quickly enough. Get some more support for Kamara to retain the ball and protect the defence then means that JJ can play with more freedom and get closer to, and then drive past, Couts and Emi2. Luiz and McGinn coming off the bench gives us real options later in matches to either try and close out a game or take a more attacking approach if we are chasing another goal. With no additional signing I worry that our midfield balance remains skewed and we'll never really be able to deliver what (I think) the manager wants. Saying it is up to him to get the players to change is not simple when McGinn (as an example) has a defined set of skills - he will never be great at ball retention because that isn't what he is about. With another Kamara level signing I think we suddenly become a team with a really strong midfield with plenty of options to try and adjust better to different match situations. If we do that and still can't find a way to retain the ball better and implement our pattern of play more often than not I would be incredibly disappointed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 It finally feels like we have a team of footballers. That actually have a first touch and a level skill on the ball that first got you into the game as a kid. We have a golden opportunity here. If we can avoid any serious injuries we'll have multiple creative options, multiple possible formations, and a very strong back 4 to build from. In Diego and Kamara we've got some serious solidity added to our defensive side, and they can both "play football" as well. They're not the clogger-esque defensive options we've had in recent years/decades. It's a good time to be a Villan and I'm very optimistic. If Watkins doesn't find his best form, and Ings doesn't rediscover his 20 goal a season capabilites, I'd even back Archer to get a decent goal return for us with his ability to find space, hit the target, and the chance creation machines we've got behind him. Can't wait for the season to start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 i really hope kamara, luiz, buendia, coutinho all start. Clever players need to play together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 6 hours ago, fruitvilla said: Premier League ball in play 2021-22 Team Minutes Seconds Manchester City 60 53 Tottenham Hotspur 57 2 Liverpool 57 0 Chelsea 56 39 Manchester United 56 26 West Ham 56 19 Wolves 56 9 Arsenal 56 1 Brighton 55 47 Leicester 55 21 Norwich 54 48 Crystal Palace 54 24 Watford 53 49 Everton 53 28 Brentford 53 10 Newcastle 52 58 Leeds 52 53 Burnley 52 47 Southampton 52 42 Aston Villa 52 23 Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'? - BBC Sport Thanks for this. I want to say it doesnt matter, but to come bottom over the entire season worse than the relegated teams, I think it does. We are in bad company down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 6 hours ago, fruitvilla said: Premier League ball in play 2021-22 Team Minutes Seconds Manchester City 60 53 Tottenham Hotspur 57 2 Liverpool 57 0 Chelsea 56 39 Manchester United 56 26 West Ham 56 19 Wolves 56 9 Arsenal 56 1 Brighton 55 47 Leicester 55 21 Norwich 54 48 Crystal Palace 54 24 Watford 53 49 Everton 53 28 Brentford 53 10 Newcastle 52 58 Leeds 52 53 Burnley 52 47 Southampton 52 42 Aston Villa 52 23 Does football need a 60-minute 'stop-clock'? - BBC Sport Emi Martinez take a bow son. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Vancvillan said: Emi Martinez take a bow son. I immediately thought of Emi’s antics when I saw that table. He’ll get himself sent off for it at some point. It’s not only on Emi though and I would like to see us move up that table considerably over the next 12 months. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Maybe a a lot of it is down to the long throws near the start of the season? It was getting ridiculous how many we were taking and they eat up time with the towel wiping of the ball, the run up etc. Anyway no harm with a bit of gamesmanship. It’s always been part of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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