Tom13 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Just now, Delphinho123 said: Yep. Two new central midfielders needed in the Summer. We seemed to have spent a lot on every other department since being promoted, now we need to improve this area in particular. TWO new central midfielders is important. I’d let Luiz and Sanson leave. How easy do you think it is to get two midfielders better than Luiz and Sanson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: How easy do you think it is to get two midfielders better than Luiz and Sanson? Probably not that easy at all. And expensive too. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Probably not that easy at all. And expensive too. Why? Answered your own question. McGinn would be the first one out the door for me, as likeable as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 If we really are to improve then we will probably sell one of Luiz or McGinn this summer. As much as I love McGinn as a player and what he’s done for us for me he is the one with lower ceiling and I’d look to move him on. Ideally you’d want to keep both as competition but I don’t think it’s realistic. I’ve sometimes thought it a bit simplistic of a view but we need someone really physical and aggressive in midfield. Arsenal have Partey, West Ham have Soucek and Rice, Spurs have Hojberg, Liverpool have Fabinho, even Henderson etc. We don’t have that in McGinn or Luiz. Surely our scouting system can find someone for better value than Kalvin Phillips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: TWO new central midfielders is important. I’d let Luiz and Sanson leave. Yes. I don’t know why Sanson can’t get a chance but clearly he’s off. Luiz for me is the one I’d be least bothered about losing from the squad, and we need to make room for two new starting signings. If we’re going to spend big then it’s these two positions plus Coutinho - imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Tom13 said: How easy do you think it is to get two midfielders better than Luiz and Sanson? Easy. Just go to your local Sunday League and you will see them better than Luiz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, messi11 said: Easy. Just go to your local Sunday League and you will see them better than Luiz You have a very odd opinion on Luiz pal. No point quoting me about him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Early on in the Arsenal game Mings was shouting and pointing at Ramsey to drop into space to receive a pass. I thought this was basic stuff, pass and move, but it's been prevalent in the Villa midfield for years now. What am I missing exactly? Him, McGinn and Douglas (less so) are constantly stood still and walking around. This is why I'd like to see Buendia play deeper, at least the bloke puts himself about, wants the ball and moves into space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, AV82 said: Early on in the Arsenal game Mings was shouting and pointing at Ramsey to drop into space to receive a pass. I thought this was basic stuff, pass and move, but it's been prevalent in the Villa midfield for years now. What am I missing exactly? Him, McGinn and Douglas (less so) are constantly stood still and walking around. This is why I'd like to see Buendia play deeper, at least the bloke puts himself about, wants the ball and moves into space. I've said it a few times on here. Please try Coutinho (or Buendia) in Ramsey's position, with the other one (Coutinho or Buendia) playing with Bailey behind Ings. I'd also love to see Sanson over McGinn for a few games. Try this, with Douglas still at the base, and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 hours ago, Tom13 said: Answered your own question. McGinn would be the first one out the door for me, as likeable as he is. I am coming around to this. Personally, I would like to see a DM come in before anyone goes, because I think a good one, will have that knock on effect to the other players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, AV82 said: Early on in the Arsenal game Mings was shouting and pointing at Ramsey to drop into space to receive a pass. I thought this was basic stuff, pass and move, but it's been prevalent in the Villa midfield for years now. What am I missing exactly? Him, McGinn and Douglas (less so) are constantly stood still and walking around. This is why I'd like to see Buendia play deeper, at least the bloke puts himself about, wants the ball and moves into space. The midfield 3 are a huge concern....in terms of their effect. I am not a Luiz fan....but I thought he was the better of the 3 on Saturday, doesn't say much, I know. Edited March 21, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) It's hard to single out any one of our midfield three. One big signing like Phillips and moving of Luiz to 8 could transform the midfield. Luiz Phillips McGinn could be the right combination Edited March 21, 2022 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, CVByrne said: It's hard to single out any one of our midfield three. One big signing like Phillips and moving of Luiz to 8 could transform the midfield. Luiz Phillips McGinn could be the right combination Absolutely. Dougie isn't a natural number 6, neither is McGinn a DM and we're seeing him play the deeper role that old cabbage and cheesy chips had him playing. Pop a proper DM in, and til Nakamba is fit just put Chambers there, and we'll see that midfield operate alot better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I still feel Nakamba has been a loss under Gerrard, he was guaranteed energy and bite in midfield. Very high workrate, he just lacked in other areas like attacking or progressive passes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, TRO said: The midfield 3 are a huge concern....in terms of their effect. I am not a Luiz fan....but I thought he was the better of the 3 on Saturday, doesn't say much, I know. Yes we can keep going around in circles but fact is theres no consistency. They can go from being really good to really bad next game. I dont think Gerrard can change the mentality of the players. Too comfortable., too passive, too nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 McGinn is the problem for me, possession football will never happen with him in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I think the problem with our midfield is that none of them really excel at anything. None of them are excellent at keeping the ball, passing, tackling or closing passing lines. Ramsey is probably the exception in that he is excellent at driving forward with the ball. That is why Mcginn and Luiz are expendable under a possession based system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Sanson will be loaned out if we can't sell him. Clearly not trusted enough by either Smith or now Steven Gerrard. I think we may want to cash in on him to raise as much funds as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Made In Aston said: I think the problem with our midfield is that none of them really excel at anything. None of them are excellent at keeping the ball, passing, tackling or closing passing lines. Ramsey is probably the exception in that he is excellent at driving forward with the ball. That is why Mcginn and Luiz are expendable under a possession based system. A midfield of modern Gavin McCanns you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Whatever your opinion on McGinn, there is 0% chance he will leave. SG loves him and previously ssid we should look to build the team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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