sheepyvillian Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 3 hours ago, A'Villan said: Jean Makoun? I said " real ", how long was Makoun with us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: That says it all ffs. Both in terms of the quality of the player, and length of time. lol I agree wholeheartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: I said " real ", how long was Makoun with us ? He was better than NRC, but he appeared nine times for us apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 England U19 right now ---------Arron Ramsey---------- Iroegbunam-Chukwuemeka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Indigo said: Carlos Sanchez as well, probably a couple of others in there that could be argued too. good at spotting them, aren't we? no wonder some fans are not convinced. Edited March 24, 2022 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: I said " real ", how long was Makoun with us ? we've had some "pigs in pokes", haven't we? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 14 hours ago, TRO said: I don't disagree in principle.....but when you say another body, that means you lose one from some where else.....and teams will exploit that. players have to individually play well, to create the collective performance, too. The other body would have been the tip of the diamond being slightly deeper and then having two people up front to use and keep hold of the ball, so in effect not losing anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Whelan more of a DLP than a proper 'DM'. He was underappreciated though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: Whelan more of a DLP than a proper 'DM'. He was underappreciated though. Whelan a deep lying playmaker? When I think of a DLP I think of Pirlo, Xabi, players who can initiate and control the tempo of how the game will go from deep, and yet impact proceedings further forward with a single decision and move. Whelan was an assured simple short passer but I saw him as a ball winner and nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Whelan a deep lying playmaker? When I think of a DLP I think of Pirlo, Xabi, players who can initiate and control the tempo of how the game will go from deep, and yet impact proceedings further forward with a single decision and move. Whelan was an assured simple short passer but I saw him as a ball winner and nothing more. I never really saw him as a great ball winner though. His passing was better than his ball winning for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, A'Villan said: Whelan a deep lying playmaker? When I think of a DLP I think of Pirlo, Xabi, players who can initiate and control the tempo of how the game will go from deep, and yet impact proceedings further forward with a single decision and move. Whelan was an assured simple short passer but I saw him as a ball winner and nothing more. The problem is with midfielders, the fans see so much different, from each other, hence the debates get cross wires....and opinions get confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 When/if we sign Pogba, Bissouma and Phillips will we be stronger? Will we still be a happy squad or does that not matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Sanson - Douglas - Buendia In my opinion the above should be our starting three in midfield for the rest of the campaign. Most importantly they all fit our style of play. All three want the ball, have great close control, pass well and, most importantly, work very hard and can press with intensity when required. Ramsey and McGinn can then come off the bench to add guile, energy and spark both when leading or chasing a game. Sanson on the right of the three can hustle with Cash and get into those deeper crossing positions he seems to favour while Buendia can operate on the left and cut inside to combine with Coutinho when needed. I'd also look to use McGinn in an advanced position and rely more on Iroegbunam and Chukwuemeka to come in and play instead running Ramsey into the ground or shoehorning McGinn into a role he clearly isn't suited for. However after the substitution of Sanson today and his persistence in using McGinn as a deep lying midfielder I have absolutely no faith in Gerrard to even consider any of this. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing him out the door at this point because his naivety and reliance on his favourite shiny square pegs in clearly round holes is alarming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 We seriously need 2 amazing central midfielders. I don’t care if we don’t sign anyone else. Our midfield undoes everything, every game. I was looking at Leicester’s line up and as much as I think they’re bang average as a side, every single one of their midfield 4 walks into our team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spoony said: We seriously need 2 amazing central midfielders. I don’t care if we don’t sign anyone else. Our midfield undoes everything, every game. I was looking at Leicester’s line up and as much as I think they’re bang average as a side, every single one of their midfield 4 walks into our team. Yeah, we need our own version of Rice & Soucek, or something similar, some real power & steel, but also able to play. Although Gerrard seems to like 1 x DM, so just one of them if thats the case..... I think it should be Ramsey, a new no.8 and a new no.6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 What was the old saying, attackers win you games, defenders win you championships. We are far to easy to score against because our midfielders are so weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Yeah, we need our own version of Rice & Soucek, or something similar, some real power & steel, but also able to play. Although Gerrard seems to like 1 x DM, so just one of them if thats the case..... I think it should be Ramsey, a new no.8 and a new no.6. That person is Kalvin Phillips and I will bang this drum for eternity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Spoony said: We seriously need 2 amazing central midfielders. I don’t care if we don’t sign anyone else. Our midfield undoes everything, every game. I was looking at Leicester’s line up and as much as I think they’re bang average as a side, every single one of their midfield 4 walks into our team. Yeah Ndidi and Tielemans cost around 50m IIRC. That's the sort of quality we need but feels like we'll sign just one for that sort of fee who won't improve us that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Yeah Ndidi and Tielemans cost around 50m IIRC. That's the sort of quality we need but feels like we'll sign just one for that sort of fee who won't improve us that much. Leicester are 1 place infront of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Just now, messi11 said: Leicester are 1 place infront of us They've had a drop this season no doubt but Tielemans-Ndidi also given them an FA cup and two 5th place finishes since 2019 so it's a little bit more proven at top level than what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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