Zatman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 11 hours ago, VillaChris said: Yeah Ndidi and Tielemans cost around 50m IIRC. That's the sort of quality we need but feels like we'll sign just one for that sort of fee who won't improve us that much. Combined they cost less than 50 million, its why its absurd we are linked with 40 million Bissouma and 60million Phillips Neither would get in the Leicester team. Is a lot better elsewhere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Zatman said: Combined they cost less than 50 million, its why its absurd we are linked with 40 million Bissouma and 60million Phillips Neither would get in the Leicester team. Is a lot better elsewhere They’d both arguably get in the Leicester side. Either way, if we could get Bissouma and Phillips for around £70m combined, it would be a huge upgrade. We could easily raise a huge portion of that with the sales of Targett, Luiz, Traore and Davis. Time to get serious in the Summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Bissouma, Phillips, Luiz would be a rather good midfield tbh. Bissouma, Phillips and anyone out of McGinn, Ramsey or Nakamaba and we'd still have the issue with neither of our midfielders being any good at the build up part if we wanted to play out from the back. Guess Sanson could but that's not where you get the most out of him. We'd lose the ball pretty quick but we'd be much better at getting it back so we could lose it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: They’d both arguably get in the Leicester side. Either way, if we could get Bissouma and Phillips for around £70m combined, it would be a huge upgrade. We could easily raise a huge portion of that with the sales of Targett, Luiz, Traore and Davis. Time to get serious in the Summer. They would make the Leicester bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 If rumours are true, the midfield three next season could be Bissouma, McGinn, Ramsey. Bissouma is a good player but I’m not sure about the composition of that trio. One runner, one fighter and one who is a bit of both. Is there enough ball playing skills? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
og1874 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: If rumours are true, the midfield three next season could be Bissouma, McGinn, Ramsey. Bissouma is a good player but I’m not sure about the composition of that trio. One runner, one fighter and one who is a bit of both. Is there enough ball playing skills? Need to upgrade McGinn too IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted April 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted April 11, 2022 We need a Sid Cowans type of midfield player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 03/04/2022 at 19:54, Zatman said: Combined they cost less than 50 million, its why its absurd we are linked with 40 million Bissouma and 60million Phillips Neither would get in the Leicester team. Is a lot better elsewhere Bissouma maybe not (although I personally think he is better than Ndidi) but Phillips walks into the Leicester team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 03/04/2022 at 11:18, sne said: Bissouma, Phillips, Luiz would be a rather good midfield tbh. Bissouma, Phillips and anyone out of McGinn, Ramsey or Nakamaba and we'd still have the issue with neither of our midfielders being any good at the build up part if we wanted to play out from the back. Guess Sanson could but that's not where you get the most out of him. We'd lose the ball pretty quick but we'd be much better at getting it back so we could lose it again. You are joking? Bissouma is an elite passer of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: You are joking? Bissouma is an elite passer of the ball. Define elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, sne said: Define elite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, sne said: Define elite Top percentiles in pass completion, in all three of the short, medium and long categories in the top 5 leagues in the world. He's the following percentiles - 90, 79, 92, 86 - overall, short, medium, long. Luiz is 54, 41, 52, 61 by comparison Edited April 13, 2022 by CVByrne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, sne said: Define elite a solitary assist in over 90 Premier League games is an elite passer Luka Modric I would say is an elite passer and Bissouma is nowhere near that level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: a solitary assist in over 90 Premier League games is an elite passer Luka Modric I would say is an elite passer and Bissouma is nowhere near that level Completely different roles, can't compare them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: a solitary assist in over 90 Premier League games is an elite passer Luka Modric I would say is an elite passer and Bissouma is nowhere near that level You do post some absolute nonsense. Comparing a defensive midfielder with world class creative midfielder based on assists. N'Golo Kante is useless, he had 2 assists last season. When you post nonsense so often, people will just end up ignoring you. Remember that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Top percentiles in pass completion, in all three of the short, medium and long categories in the top 5 leagues in the world. He's the following percentiles - 90, 79, 92, 86 - overall, short, medium, long. Luiz is 54, 41, 52, 61 by comparison Am I misunderstanding this...you're saying Douglas Luiz has 54% overall pass completion? If so, that just can't be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: Am I misunderstanding this...you're saying Douglas Luiz has 54% overall pass completion? If so, that just can't be correct. He got 96% at the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CVByrne said: You do post some absolute nonsense. Comparing a defensive midfielder with world class creative midfielder based on assists. N'Golo Kante is useless, he had 2 assists last season. When you post nonsense so often, people will just end up ignoring you. Remember that Well Bissouma is not a defensive midfielder he is a central midfielder and regardless if he as an elite passer he should be on a similar level to a world class midfielder. I wasnt even basing his assists on Modric passing Nobody has said Kante is an elite passer or compared them. So who is posting the nonsense? Edited April 13, 2022 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: Completely different roles, can't compare them No, a measure of a players passing skills are not based on their passing ability. It's based solely on assists. Thus a player with higher assists is the better passer. So any player who is in the final 1/3rd of the pitch more often, thus getting more assists, is better than any defensive player. The amount of nonsense posted on this forum. It's astonishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Am I misunderstanding this...you're saying Douglas Luiz has 54% overall pass completion? If so, that just can't be correct. The 54 is the percentile he’s in for completed passes with 83.8%. Compared to the midfielders in top 5 leagues 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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