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2 hours ago, villan-scott said:

QPR winning tonight is a poor result for them. Looking at the weekend fixtures they could really be in trouble from here. 

They’re away at Boro. Derby at home to Rotherham. Forest at home to Millwall, and Sheffield Wednesday play Coventry.

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Blimey.... its a complete nightmare fixture list for them this weekend, they'll be right in the mix by Saturday evening. If Derby's takeover goes through I wouldn't be surprised to see them sign a couple of players, Forest will improve, Wednesday are already picking up results. Rotherham and Derby with games/a game in hand.

I can see them being in the bottom three in Feb.

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From the Athletic, says us and Wolves are looking to snap up their kids that want out. lolz.

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Birmingham City are willing to offload some of their top academy players as part of a potentially money-spinning scheme, The Athletic can reveal.

 

A number of youngsters are either attracting interest from rival clubs or trying to secure a move away from Birmingham after the club announced plans for a major overhaul of their youth set-up.

 

Last month we exclusively revealed how the club were considering changing their under-23 and under-18 teams to B and C teams in the future — similar to the model at Brentford. Ditching youth development below the under-18 level was also a move under discussion, and still remains a possibility, even though plans for Category 1 status (the highest level under the Elite Player Performance Plan) are moving forward.

 

England youth international Calum Scanlon recently told the club he would not be signing on as a scholar and was quickly offloaded to Liverpool who paid around £500,000 for the 15-year-old.

 

Rico Browne, 17, is expected to be the next player out the door. The first-year scholar is highly-rated and played in the FA Youth Cup as a schoolboy last year but Birmingham City will not stand in his way if they receive a suitable offer.

 

Multiple sources have told The Athletic this is also the situation for other players in the club’s academy at an even younger age.

 

Local Premier League rivals Aston Villa and Wolverhampton Wanderers are looking to take advantage and have already drawn up a list of targets. Both clubs are recruiting aggressively to bolster their age-group teams across the board and see this as a quick way to strengthen.

 

Villa recently signed 13-year-old goalkeeper Sam Proctor from Peterborough United for a maximum compensation fee of £100,000 and now — according to several academy recruitment and scouting sources — have the leading under-13s player at St Andrew’s on their radar.

 

A number of other clubs, including Wolves, have their eye on a few more top academy talents.

In December a club statement confirmed a shake-up was on the horizon, including a plan to move to a B and C-team operation. Long-serving academy manager Kristjaan Speakman also departed to take on a technical director role at League One side Sunderland.

 

However, a second statement issued just 24 hours later stated it was “business as usual” for players aged between eight to 16. The club’s U-turn is understood to have been sparked by a meeting with senior academy staff.

 

The uncertainty has since increased with the cancellation of all non-elite football under the latest lockdown laws making the evolving situation even more difficult.

 

Representatives and parents of players in the academy are still waiting for answers. They are growing increasingly concerned and frustrated. Many young players were reduced to tears when the club issued the statement confirming future changes last month.

 

There is also a feeling the club are speeding up the sales of their prized academy talents. Scanlon to Liverpool is an early example, and others, as mentioned are likely to follow.

 

If the academy were to shut, it would make sense to raise funds through a quick fire-sale of the best young talent, as all player contracts would be declared null and void on closure. Compensation fees can be agreed between clubs and, if Birmingham City feel it is in their best interest, they will discuss moving players on.

 

However, in a statement issued to The Athletic the club rejected any claims they are offering academy players to rival clubs.

 

The statement read: “We are in the final stages of our Category 1 status application and remain committed to retaining our brightest young players in the belief that the club is the best place for their development and presents a pathway to first-team football.

 

“There will always be interest in our players such is the calibre of player we are producing. We view this as testament to the fantastic work of the academy. If there is a discussion to be had around a player’s future, a decision will be made which suits both the player and the Football Club.”

 

The Category 1 application, currently being pushed through by senior academy staff, has added to the layers of confusion.

 

The academy is currently recognised as Category 2 and the under-23 side play in the Premier League Professional Development League, where they reached the final of the competition in 2019. The plans to move into Category 1 were put in place so the under-23s could play in Premier League 2 and the under-18s could also then compete in the Under-18 Premier League.

 

It is understood an Elite Player Performance Plan audit is underway as part of the process but that is not to say Birmingham will definitely press ahead with the move.

 

A final sign-off from those in charge is needed first, then additional funds of around £500,000 are required.

 

At a time where money is tight and debts are rising – the club owe £110 million to their controlling parent company, Hong Kong-based British Sports Holdings — adding cost to an academy that already takes up around £3 million of the budget is an obvious issue.

 

Birmingham City are also yet to explain how they plan to make a Category 1 academy work with B and C teams. The two are not usually compatible.

 

The most high-profile player to come through Birmingham’s academy in recent years is Jude Bellingham, the Borussia Dortmund midfielder who made his England debut in November. His 15-year-old younger brother is currently a player in the academy.

 

Fellow academy graduates Nathan Redmond, Jack Butland and Demarai Gray have all been called up to represent the national side, too, since leaving St Andrew’s in years gone by.

 

Many of the current academy stars are concerned for their future and, with other clubs showing an interest, there could soon be a number of players on the move.

 

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18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Man we really need to try grab the other bellingham brother

No chance of that happening given they are noses.

We are trying to land some of their other young players though, the club is going to disintegrate they are in so so so much trouble on and off the pitch.

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If the Bellinghams have such a small fixed mindset that they 'can't play for villa we're blues' they aren't going to be worth it. 

Also, having their players means giving them money. Half a miion/million quid here and there? Their actual team isn't worth that 

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31 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said:

If the Bellinghams have such a small fixed mindset that they 'can't play for villa we're blues' they aren't going to be worth it. 

Also, having their players means giving them money. Half a miion/million quid here and there? Their actual team isn't worth that 

My thoughts exactly. Are they really going to turn down the chance to get a stupid amount of money for a chance to play for one of the leaguss best sides who likes to brood youngsters in and is mainly British?

Gardners were villa fans and went to the step down to blose 

If they are that stupid then i would agree their loss.

 

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16 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

Gardners were villa fans and went to the step down to blose

I know someone who grew up with them and he says both of them have always been noses.

He didn't half celebrate when he scored for us against them though, so who knows.

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27 minutes ago, Paddywhack said:

I know someone who grew up with them and he says both of them have always been noses.

He didn't half celebrate when he scored for us against them though, so who knows.

The Squarehead Brothers have always been knuckledraggers, although they kept it quiet.

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1 hour ago, Demitri_C said:

My thoughts exactly. Are they really going to turn down the chance to get a stupid amount of money for a chance to play for one of the leaguss best sides who likes to brood youngsters in and is mainly British?

Gardners were villa fans and went to the step down to blose 

If they are that stupid then i would agree their loss.

 

not sure they would turn it down just cause it's villa and they had a small mindset, more because of the shite that would come their way if he signed for us. we know what a horrible bunch they are...if bellingham came to us there would be backlash. their fans love the whole family because apparently it was a family decision to keep jude as long as he did to help the club.

it would be amazing if we got him though...don't even care if he's good or not.

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2 hours ago, slowandlow said:

And both openly stated they were villa fans even though they evidently were noses.

Thick as shit.

I'm not sure they ever did you know, Gary talked about being on the Holte watching a game but didn't say he was a Villa fan. People assumed and he let them. They were always noses.

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18 minutes ago, TrentVilla said:

I'm not sure they ever did you know, Gary talked about being on the Holte watching a game but didn't say he was a Villa fan. People assumed and he let them. They were always noses.

There are direct quotes from both I'll dig them out

 

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20 minutes ago, TrentVilla said:

I'm not sure they ever did you know, Gary talked about being on the Holte watching a game but didn't say he was a Villa fan. People assumed and he let them. They were always noses.

 

Gary: "It’s a big thing for me as a Villa fan"

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https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/10/26/gardner-derby-excitement

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21 minutes ago, TrentVilla said:

I'm not sure they ever did you know, Gary talked about being on the Holte watching a game but didn't say he was a Villa fan. People assumed and he let them. They were always noses.

Craig: “I signed for Villa when I was 15 and since then these have been the best days of my life. I’m a Villa fan.

from https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/mat-kendrick-craig-gardner-boyhood-3934198.amp

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