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3 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

I don't think buying an injured wreck of a player to be smart, but I fancy Tuanzebe back for the chant alone.

I don't know why everyone seems to think this... I literally posted his injury history.

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18 minutes ago, paul514 said:

I don't know why everyone seems to think this... I literally posted his injury history.

I dunno. Transfermarkt says he's been injured with reoccurring injuries close to 300 days the last 2-3 years. That's a lot.

You can also just look at his thread on Man Utds forum. His injury proneness is the biggest complaint.

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41 minutes ago, paul514 said:

Perhaps but we have seen him play for an extended period and know what qualities he does and doesn’t possess.

He is 100% an upgrade on Engels and House 

Agree

But at the same time it's not Hause and Engels I'm comparing him to, if you value him at £15-20m it's who else is then available and I believe that for that value we should be able to do better

Engels and Hause were £10m combined, I'd put Tuanzebe at around £10m tops, man utd won't 

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An alternative prospect to Charles De Ketelaere  https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/charles-de-ketelaere/profil/spieler/435772

who I mentioned yesterday from Club Brugge is Christoph Baumgartner from Hoffenheim. 
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/christoph-baumgartner/profil/spieler/324278

Both play similar positions and obtainable IMO and an upgrade on Hourihane.

Suat Serdar from schalke is another name worth monitoring as a long term option. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/suat-serdar/profil/spieler/261905

I’d like us to sign Kristoffer Ajer from Celtic @ CB who could be  our next Laursen or Mellberg. 

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Interesting vid on the new work permit rules that will impact the PL. (not sure how true etc etc)

Apparently South Americans (Argentina/Brazil), will have a much easier time getting points for PL approval, meaning (apparently), that South American signings for young talent will be much easier........maybe we need to be on that in Jan.

Also, discussion around purchasing of foreign clubs as some kind of feeder club, we need to do something like that.

 

 

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2 hours ago, paul514 said:
20/21 Unknown Injury Jul 3, 2020 Sep 1, 2020 60 days 10Manchester United
19/20 Hamstring Injury Dec 18, 2019 Feb 27, 2020 71 days 18Manchester United
19/20 Hip Injury Oct 19, 2019 Nov 17, 2019 29 days 7Manchester United
18/19 Metatarsal Fracture Dec 22, 2018 Mar 29, 2019 97 days 17Aston Villa


That is his injury record, it isn't horrendous and they aren't the same injuries which is the most important thing.

foot bone, hip, hamstring.

Thats worse for me shows he picks up numerous injuries.

Look at how many games he has started

All lengthy too

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1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

I dunno. Transfermarkt says he's been injured with reoccurring injuries close to 300 days the last 2-3 years. That's a lot.

You can also just look at his thread on Man Utds forum. His injury proneness is the biggest complaint.

That website says they aren’t recurring as they are different parts of the body

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1 hour ago, villa4europe said:

Agree

But at the same time it's not Hause and Engels I'm comparing him to, if you value him at £15-20m it's who else is then available and I believe that for that value we should be able to do better

Engels and Hause were £10m combined, I'd put Tuanzebe at around £10m tops, man utd won't 

I’d put him around 10m as well, I wouldn’t purchase at 20m you could buy a good continental defender for that.

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44 minutes ago, rayk said:

I can’t believe Tuanzebe has been injured that much.......how can he be when he’s not even played??

When he was with us he was pretty much injury free right?

 

With the exception of when he broke a bone in his foot, yes.

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1 hour ago, paul514 said:

That website says they aren’t recurring as they are different parts of the body

I don't think that's necessarily correct. It's hip and thigh. I would know as I've got the same injury myself. Hip, thigh, groin are often injuries that are hard to pinpoint. I went to several specialists at the olympic medical center here, and the injury and pain are often diffuse and slide across all these areas. I'm no physio mind so I'm sure if there's a physio here they could explain better. I'm utterly **** from upper thigh through groin to pulsating hip pain.

I might be wrong in zebe's case, but it's easily something that could be one spesific issue.

 

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McGinn injury really hurt us. Barkleys injury we suffered at first. It disrupts the squad and team, why would you purchase a player knowing they'll be out for 2-3 months a season. No thanks. Plenty of players out there and it's what the scouting team are payed for. 

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2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said:

I don't think that's necessarily correct. It's hip and thigh. I would know as I've got the same injury myself. Hip, thigh, groin are often injuries that are hard to pinpoint. I went to several specialists at the olympic medical center here, and the injury and pain are often diffuse and slide across all these areas. I'm no physio mind so I'm sure if there's a physio here they could explain better. I'm utterly **** from upper thigh through groin to pulsating hip pain.

I might be wrong in zebe's case, but it's easily something that could be one spesific issue.

 

I’m not a medical doctor but if it says they are different injuries then I’m going to go with that.

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