Genie Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 England look like they don’t really know what to do 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) It's been really bad. We have no fluency going forward and now they've picked us off twice we've got no way back with this system. 4 at the back Gazzy boy. It's the only way out of this unholy mess. Edited November 15, 2020 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 As much as I don't care how England do, it is a shame to see such a talented generation of players get wasted because of the stubbornness of an inept manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, Genie said: England look like they don’t really know what to do No effing movement at all. This is a lack of coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Kane MOTM for me so far. By a pretty big distance. He is truly a world class player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted November 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2020 I suspect we will see Jack substituted at half-time for Sancho. Well done Gareth you’ve given the lad a chance on his first start with a wank formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shomin Geki Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Anyone else dying to know if England get their own slice of popular 90s dance if they score? If we conjure up a nifty passing move they can do ''I like to move it, move it''. Bobby Brown's ''Two Can Play That Game'' can be blasted when that mythical Grealish Mount team-up happens. I vote for Renegade Master or Ebeneezer Goode. EMF's Unbelievable for the stunning comeback winner. Although that is stretching the dance remit. We shall have to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Jack Looking a bit lost out there but that’s more about the system than Jack. At 2 down England should sacrifice Dier , who let’s face it is a liability anyway , and get something extra into midfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Are we actually playing wing backs? Theyve hardly bombed on at all, it's like a flat back 5 with 2 sitting midfielders. Mings has probably made the most forward runs of all of them. With Mount and Grealish not playing wide either how the **** are we supposed to create anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markc Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Can see Jack being pulled off early second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, Follyfoot said: I suspect we will see Jack substituted at half-time for Sancho. Well done Gareth you’ve given the lad a chance on his first start with a wank formation And it won't change anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Just now, markc said: Can see Jack being pulled off early second half. Good! Need him fit for Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 someone needs to drop back on to the posts, when defending free kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I really can't stand 5 at the back. You are sacrificing a midfielder/attacker for an extra defender which is negative by nature. It isn't inherently negative. Look at the way Belgium use it. They get an extra winger on the pitch. They still play 4 natural defenders. That is the issue. We play 2 full backs and then go with 2 defensive midfielders on top of that when Belgium use Tielemans and Witsel who are both very good going forward and Witsel is as good defensively as rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Surprised at all this moaning, England haven't played badly and it could be argued have been the better side, Belgium have been good enough to take their two chances which is the main difference. I don't like Southgate as a manager, but don't think he's done much wrong today in terms of the side he's put out, Grealish hasn't been as good as he can be, but that's not Southgate's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 You select Dier and Walker in a back 3 your managerial credentials need to be questioned..... Car crash defenders as Roy Keane would put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted November 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: I suspect we will see Jack substituted at half-time for Sancho. Well done Gareth you’ve given the lad a chance on his first start with a wank formation I hope so, no protection from the ref at all. We're wasting our time with Gareth. We are in exactly the same position as we were against Croatia and he had no answers then and he won't now. It's the FA fault, their where the blame lays for England's hopeless record in international football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4yrs in the job and Kane and Pickford are the only 2 guaranteed starters. He doesn't know his best defence, his best midfield, or even his best formation. Part of me just thinks the guy is coward, both in terms of his formations and constantly awarding undeserving caps to young players, it's almost like he is hanging on to the "building for the future" excuse. I'll never be convinced that this guy is a manager. Absolute chancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 With the amount of things going in the world at the moment I can't get too angry that England are losing to a superior side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Kane MOTM for me so far. By a pretty big distance. He is truly a world class player. As much as I like him and I don't think out toothless Ness is hisbproblem I don't think he's instantly clicked with grealish and Mount sometimes looks a bit lost on the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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