conorm Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 9 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Cheers Brommy, so he picked up too many yellows so misses a game? Exactly. In the same way that McGinn, Diaby, Dougie, Tielemans, and Cash would have been suspended for the semi had they been booked - as they were carrying two bookings into the game. It just happens that Emi got his second and third bookings in the same game!! Edited April 19 by conorm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted April 19 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, conorm said: Exactly. In the same way that McGinn, Diaby, Dougie, Tielemans, and Cash would have been suspended had they been booked - as they were taking two bookings into the game. It just happens that Emi got his second and third bookings in the same game!! Right, thanks, I was very confused but that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, conorm said: Exactly. In the same way that McGinn, Diaby, Dougie, Tielemans, and Cash would have been suspended for the semi had they been booked - as they were carrying two bookings into the game. It just happens that Emi got his second and third bookings in the same game!! How they managed to avoid bookings i've no idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, TRO said: I love his personality.....it defines him. His ambition is clear, and it derives from his love for the club. I must admit, I am not particularly emotional, but when he answered a question about how your team mates, feel about you.....He said they " need me " Oh dear that touch me. He said he loves his team mates and the club....he is a top, top man. My grand kids met him at Ashen Farm, nr BMH, he was with his kids.....and they said he was charming. This guy is a top, top keeper....best in the world? not sure....but he's one of them......but his personality is off the scale. I have been irked over the years of our " Mr Nice Guy " tag and Emi Comes along, and rips it up......The critics can go **** themselves. One of the best buys, we have ever made. I couldn’t agree more. The difference in the personality of wanting to win and making sure that you win is huge Emmi epitomises being a winner regardless of the situation he’s in. We’re lucky to have him and hopefully this runs off on more of our players, I think our manager and the coaches already have it but you can never have too much of it. I’ve seen us lose lots of matches we should have won against teams that weren’t as good as us, last night was a huge psychological shift, which I think Gerrard was hinting was necessary but has no idea how to do it, along with his many other faults. He could do it on the pit it had no idea how to teach others how to do it. Last night our elite GK was doing elite GK stuff and our manager was doing elite manager stuff. We’re getting there now, it may have taken a while but finally the light at the end of a dark tunnel is much brighter than it has been for many years. Having been on the same journey as me for a similar amount of time, I’m sure you understand what I mean. We perhaps can stop banging our heads against the wall for a while and enjoy the next chapter as much as those we enjoyed all those years ago, on a good morning, with the sunshine beaming down up here in The Highlands, it can feel like it was only yesterday. A warm May day in Athens won’t be too dissimilar to a warm day in May 22 years ago!! UTV!!!! and look after yourself, we’ve got an FA Cup to win too!!! Edited April 19 by DaveAV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conorm Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, duke313 said: How they managed to avoid bookings i've no idea I know right? It felt to me like every single player had been booked (at least once) by the end of that game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted April 19 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19 Hang on… this from the Birmingham Mail says that Emi wasn’t on one yellow card before the game? Unless they’re wrong, and I accept they frequently are! Quote Besides Zaniolo, Cash, Konsa, McGinn, Tielemans, Luiz, and Diaby, no player is on more than one booking. In total, five Villa players are on one booking and will not be banned for a potential semi-final unless they are sent off on Thursday. Europa Conference League yellow cards (not including play-off qualifying round) - Nicolo Zaniolo - 3 Matty Cash, John McGinn, Moussa Diaby, Youri Tielemans, Ezri Konsa, Douglas Luiz - 2 Clement Lenglet, Leon Bailey, Ollie Watkins, Jhon Duran, and Morgan Rogers - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conorm Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Hang on… this from the Birmingham Mail says that Emi wasn’t on one yellow card before the game? Unless they’re wrong, and I accept they frequently are! Emi was definitely booked in the first leg. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68783693 Edited April 19 by conorm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted April 19 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, conorm said: Emi was definitely booked in the first leg. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68783693 Ah thank you, right I’ll shut up now, it all makes sense!! Birmingham Mail were bound to be wrong! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Yeah he was booked in the 95th minute of the first leg However, https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/clubs/players/250026721--emiliano-martinez/statistics/ shows him as only having 2 yellows in the competition, and i thought you needed 3 to be suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 42 minutes ago, lexicon said: Sounds like you need to calm down with a bit of Zhan zhuang mate I merely jest... Do you Zhan Zhuang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conorm Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, andym said: Yeah he was booked in the 95th minute of the first leg However, https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/clubs/players/250026721--emiliano-martinez/statistics/ shows him as only having 2 yellows in the competition, and i thought you needed 3 to be suspended? That is the only possible mitigation - that the shootout booking somehow exists in isolation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 minutes ago, andym said: Yeah he was booked in the 95th minute of the first leg However, https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/clubs/players/250026721--emiliano-martinez/statistics/ shows him as only having 2 yellows in the competition, and i thought you needed 3 to be suspended? That's what I was thinking, the pen shootoout yellow card is not on UEFA website. So, either wasn't given (ref changed his mind) or it doesn't count (same as goals in pen shootout dont count to a players career stats). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoyman Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) I didn't see the first half yellow and it seems hard to get a unanimous answer about whether the ball was in play. If there was a case to appeal one of the yellows I wonder whether UEFA might not look on it too favourably because they were obviously trying to clamp down on penalty antics, and will just want to vengefully put down a marker. He already embarrassed FIFA in front of their Qatari blood money buddies by making the WC final all about his shithousing then making sweet love to the golden glove. If the phantom yellow in the shootout isn't even in the books is it just moot though? Maybe ref just decided not to take his name after he realised the match ball was genuinely suspiciously missing Edited April 19 by Annoyman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Okonokos said: This was more because there was no ball though. The delay wasn't really to do with Martinez; Watkins literally didn't have a ball. Pretty sure the crowd were holding onto it or something. I dunno. Looked like the ref spoke to Martinez for a while, immediately after he'd just shhh'd the crowd after the first pen save. The ref then walks away, but is clearly distracted by Martinez' shenanigans (not wholly Emi's fault here) and doesn't realise there's no ball in play. Martinez asks for a ball - the ref misjudges this as him winding up the crowd (again) and charges over to book him. I felt at the time that Ollie's statistically a weak penalty taker - and all this can't have helped. But he nailed then pen - so fair play to him. He's definitely mentally stronger this season. Edited April 19 by Cizzler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 So according to Emery in his presser this afternoon, even the club are unsure if he can play in the semi - It’s not exactly 100 per cent he’s not going to be for the next round, available to play. “In the beginning I think it’s not, but we are in conversations with UEFA about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Annoyman said: I didn't see the first half yellow and it seems hard to get a unanimous answer about whether the ball was in play. If there was a case to appeal one of the yellows I wonder whether UEFA might not look on it too favourably because they were obviously trying to clamp down on penalty antics, and will just want to vengefully put down a marker. He already embarrassed FIFA in front of their Qatari blood money buddies by making the WC final all about his shithousing then making sweet love to the golden glove. If the phantom yellow in the shootout isn't even in the books is it just moot though? Maybe ref just decided not to take his name after he realised the match ball was genuinely suspiciously missing It was 100% a goal kick. It was only yesterday (and I wasn't drinking!). It was a harsh yellow - the game was tied, it was early on and I don't remember a serious previous warning. Crowd baited the ref into it big time. But it was definitely a dead ball. Edited April 19 by Cizzler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, ferguson1 said: So according to Emery in his presser this afternoon, even the club are unsure if he can play in the semi - It’s not exactly 100 per cent he’s not going to be for the next round, available to play. “In the beginning I think it’s not, but we are in conversations with UEFA about it. Well if Emery, Villa and UEFA don't know what the hell is going on, then we have no chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, ender4 said: Well if Emery, Villa and UEFA don't know what the hell is going on, then we have no chance! Yep, bit of a farce really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 It should be a straight answer really. It's either a rule and he's banned or there's no rule and he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runerene Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 According to UEFAs match report, he didn´t get booked during the penalty shoot out. https://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/2024/2040510_FR.pdf That puts him on two yellows, which will be wiped going into the semis. And you need three to miss the next match anyway, right? Surely, he must be eligible to play the home game in the semis? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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