supermon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s mad about this compilation is, if this were a player we were linked with in the German/Spanish league, we’d be at 50 pages already and spotting planes. I’d love it if Emery kept him round the squad this year. So true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s mad about this compilation is, if this were a player we were linked with in the German/Spanish league, we’d be at 50 pages already and spotting planes. I’d love it if Emery kept him round the squad this year. I can safely say that i have never ever seen any other Villa player make a backheeled throughball in the box .and that comp has one of my favourite villa youth moments. 2 mins 25 in .The pass for Cams 3rd against Barrow . Ridiculous vision . If he was consistent Jaden would he worth 50 million. Edited July 16, 2023 by MWARLEY2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s mad about this compilation is, if this were a player we were linked with in the German/Spanish league, we’d be at 50 pages already and spotting planes. I’d love it if Emery kept him round the squad this year. I don't agree - people would be correctly pointing out that so many clips cut out before the important bit i.e. the final ball was played. It's clear that he can beat a man and is an exciting player, but he'll be in the championship if he doesn't find an end product because that is precisely what is missing from his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, lexicon said: I don't agree - people would be correctly pointing out that so many clips cut out before the important bit i.e. the final ball was played. It's clear that he can beat a man and is an exciting player, but he'll be in the championship if he doesn't find an end product because that is precisely what is missing from his game. He can make the final pass but it seems like his teammates were utterly dogshit at finishing or even making contact so he stopped playing them. In the barrow game for instance he played like 4 just sensational passes that require a tonne of vision and skill to pull off. Even though it is vs a significantly weaker team he had teammates who were moving and capable of finishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: He can make the final pass but it seems like his teammates were utterly dogshit at finishing or even making contact so he stopped playing them. In the barrow game for instance he played like 4 just sensational passes that require a tonne of vision and skill to pull off. Even though it is vs a significantly weaker team he had teammates who were moving and capable of finishing. In 2791 minutes of championship football, he has one assist. He was in the bottom 7th percentile for key passes last season. He desperately needs to add end product to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Can we get him back just for a chant of "Philogene is not my lover" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, lexicon said: In 2791 minutes of championship football, he has one assist. He was in the bottom 7th percentile for key passes last season. He desperately needs to add end product to his game. Yet still won Cardiff's Young Player of the season award! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: What’s mad about this compilation is, if this were a player we were linked with in the German/Spanish league, we’d be at 50 pages already and spotting planes. With 49 pages of fish puns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 25 minutes ago, Kingman said: Yet still won Cardiff's Young Player of the season award! The team that finished 21st in the championship? Did he have any competition for that award? He's exciting and he has potential but he has a way to go before he can be of real use to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, lexicon said: The team that finished 21st in the championship? Did he have any competition for that award? He's exciting and he has potential but he has a way to go before he can be of real use to us. Could of been the difference between them finishing 22nd and being relegated Generally have no idea as I've not watched him in any great detail to see if he aligns with your expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STO Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Championship at best but we should let him go with a buy back clause and/or a sell on deal in place. Good player but not going to make it at Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kingman said: Could of been the difference between them finishing 22nd and being relegated Generally have no idea as I've not watched him in any great detail to see if he aligns with your expectations. And that would still not translate to being of the requisite quality. There's a world of difference between championship and premier league. It has nothing to do with expectations, it has to do with production and if you've not watched him play, why are just arguing the toss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 16, 2023 Author Share Posted July 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: And that would still not translate to being of the requisite quality. There's a world of difference between championship and premier league. It has nothing to do with expectations, it has to do with production and if you've not watched him play, why are just arguing the toss? Like i said, I Generally have no idea as I've not watched him in any great detail to see if he aligns with your expectations. You've obviously scouted every minute of his development so I will bow down to your superior knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2023 He's difficult to judge - he can dazzle and beguile and he's a joy to watch when he's on it, but how that translates to productivity, to goals, assists and wins is less clear at the moment. I think another loan will suit him, but he needs to play and he's ready right now to play at a good level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 He needs to stop wearing those daft long sleeve under shirts over his hands. Makes him look lethargic. Get him a short sleeve shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Talent and quality can be mutually exclusive. No doubt the huge skill is there. Up there with Coutinho when he is on it imo, but as with him its difficult to see any consistency of end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Big one for him today. Trusted with a starting spot to show what he can do. Interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, lexicon said: Big one for him today. Trusted with a starting spot to show what he can do. Interesting. Agreed. Manager has put him in so must like what he sees in training. He seems mercurial, but so is Traore. If we could sell the latter, perhaps there’s a space in there for Jaden? Would help the wage bill and perhaps add a bit of value to Jaden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: Agreed. Manager has put him in so must like what he sees in training. He seems mercurial, but so is Traore. If we could sell the latter, perhaps there’s a space in there for Jaden? Would help the wage bill and perhaps add a bit of value to Jaden. He's got the ability but has not shown the end product yet. We need to see some key passes or SCA at least, better still some assists and goals. He's had his career disrupted a bit through injury but he's still young and it could click for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 It's good that he's starting but I wouldn't read too much into it in terms of his chances of being part of our squad next season, the rest of the team are first teamers, and if any of Diaby, Coutinho, Bailey, or Traore were available I imagine they would be starting ahead of Philogene based on the rest of the line-up. Only real surprise is that he's been chosen to play on that left handside ahead of Aaron Ramsey, but I'm sure he will get plenty of chances too. If he impresses though maybe can force his way into the plans, would be good to see, same for Aaron, big shame no Iro, hopefully not injured if so hopefully not too bad. Big chance for Philogene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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