Rightdm00 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Alvarez and I also think Jesus has a better allround game. I didn't say maybe Isak either, I said undoubtedly. None of the strikers press or hold up the ball at anywhere near the level Ollie does. Even then you can still only name 5 strikers better than Watkins. Of that 5 we could only dream of affording one, Isak. 3 of them are beyond us, Haaland, Son, and Jesus. The other, Alvarez, is not ready to lead the line as a sole striker. Ollie is by far the best striker we get that doesn't blow our wage bill to pieces. Yet there are moans every time he doesn't score. No striker scores every game. At least with Ollie when he doesn't score you get high pressure and the hold up play. This season he has even added assists to his game. Haaland just had a game where he did literally nothing for 90 minutes. He's elite though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 How on earth was it not a pen? Have I missed something? Did they discuss it afterwards? Couldn’t have been any clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Second in goal contributions this season. Not bad for a shit striker. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 I just wish he'd be a bit stronger and more prepared for a challenge when receiving the ball with his back to goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: Isak is a better player than Watkins though. That's not in doubt for me. Agree with your post though, apart from him being guaranteed to get in those sides Isak is a totally different player to Watkins. Don't agree that he's a better footballer than Watkins, better finisher, more natural instinct yes. Overall game, not a chance. Isak isn't dinking that ball in for our equalizer today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Isak is a totally different player to Watkins. Don't agree that he's a better footballer than Watkins, better finisher, more natural instinct yes. Overall game, not a chance. Isak isn't dinking that ball in for our equalizer today. Not a better footballer? Really? He has much better technique and footwork. Not knocking Ollie, just a fact, at least in my opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, DJBOB said: Second in goal contributions this season. Not bad for a shit striker. You think he's shit? Incorrect IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just seen the penalty claim again. His touch and layoff to get that move going was quality tbf. And certainly should have been a pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Just seen the penalty claim again. His touch and layoff to get that move going was quality tbf. And certainly should have been a pen. I’m stunned that VAR can look at that and not give a pen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Annoyed he hit the post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 9 hours ago, DJBOB said: Second in goal contributions this season. Not bad for a shit striker. This is so reductive. Has anyone said he's shit? @Tom13 and I are critical of elements of his game, perhaps the most vocal about it, but I don't know of anyone saying he's "a shit striker". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: That's not what you said. "I wouldn't take any striker in the premier league over Ollie". But yes, if you're referring only to strikers would theoretically want to join us, Haaland is out of the equation. As pointed out by @Rightdm00 ollie offers us more than Haaland would. His assists are very important and his work rate as well. Hes a great player and more importantly hes our player. Comparing him to strikers that we would never get is rather pointless, it just becomes whingeing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Don_Simon said: This is so reductive. Has anyone said he's shit? @Tom13 and I are critical of elements of his game, perhaps the most vocal about it, but I don't know of anyone saying he's "a shit striker". We've scored 19 goals, the 3rd most in PL, and he's scored 4, assisted 4, and won 2 penalties. The criticism is bizarre 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, tinker said: As pointed out by @Rightdm00 ollie offers us more than Haaland would. His assists are very important and his work rate as well. Hes a great player and more importantly hes our player. Comparing him to strikers that we would never get is rather pointless, it just becomes whingeing. I was just going by what you wrote. You've corrected yourself and I absolutely agree with you. All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 8 hours ago, maqroll said: Annoyed he hit the post! I bet he was also rather annoyed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Anyone have a clip of the push ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 31 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Anyone have a clip of the push ? Watched highlights on YouTube just put in Wolves vs Villa. It was outrageous. Not sure how passes VAR check 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 i wouldnt describe it as outrageous. Its a definite push but probably gentle enough to go down as contact. Of course id have liked the pen, if its given against us though im arguing and calling it a stupid challenge. If the ref gives it, i think VAR keeps it as a pen, if he doesnt i dont think theirs enough personally to over turn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, cheltenham_villa said: If the ref gives it, i think VAR keeps it as a pen, if he doesnt i dont think theirs enough personally to over turn it. Do you think ref gives against usual teams that get penalties? Edited October 9, 2023 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Rightdm00 said: None of the strikers press or hold up the ball at anywhere near the level Ollie does. Even then you can still only name 5 strikers better than Watkins. Of that 5 we could only dream of affording one, Isak. 3 of them are beyond us, Haaland, Son, and Jesus. The other, Alvarez, is not ready to lead the line as a sole striker. Ollie is by far the best striker we get that doesn't blow our wage bill to pieces. Yet there are moans every time he doesn't score. No striker scores every game. At least with Ollie when he doesn't score you get high pressure and the hold up play. This season he has even added assists to his game. Haaland just had a game where he did literally nothing for 90 minutes. He's elite though. and he is always there to miss them and unlucky that keeper tipped over yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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