Chindie Posted July 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2020 Assuming we beat Everton is a helluva big assumption though. Our record at Goodison is a bit shit and as much as Everton can affectively view the game as a dead rubber, we've been rubbish for the past 6 months and only with a woeful Palace team on holiday did we get anything. Everton are a better side. And Arsenal will waltz through us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I do like reading about how great Bournemouth are. The same Bournemouth who took 6 pts off us but are only a 1pt ahead of a shit aston villa, who have a game in hand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 53 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: It's all irrelevant if we don't beat Everton. If we don't beat Everton then we won't be taking it to the last day of the season whatever happens in other games. Technically that's not true, we need 6 points from the available 9 as a minimum. In theory 6 could come from arsenal and WHam, but granted, its exponentially less likely we will get 6 points if 3 of them aren't against Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Hobbit Feet said: They are not the force of old. They are exactly the type of team that it is best to play this time of the season... As long as you are not us. to have a chance against Arsenal you have to have muscle and aggression, and get after them....they don't like that......and we haven't. Edited July 15, 2020 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chindie said: Assuming we beat Everton is a helluva big assumption though. Our record at Goodison is a bit shit and as much as Everton can affectively view the game as a dead rubber, we've been rubbish for the past 6 months and only with a woeful Palace team on holiday did we get anything. Everton are a better side. And Arsenal will waltz through us. Palace have been better than Everton this season imo. Even if Everton were fighting for a Europa place I'd still be hoping to beat them. They still haven't found an identity, and aren't that seemingly imperious side at Goodison anymore, especially without the fans. Now they have nothing to play for. Players might be saving themselves for potential moves. We go snapping into tackles and putting them under pressure from the first whistle, do you see them keeping up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted July 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2020 FA Cup plays a big part in the relegation battle for me. Man City v Arsenal Chelsea v Man Utd Man City just rested players ahead of the Semis this weekend. Our game v Arsenal could be easier if Arsenal win but likewise so could Watford v Man City or West Ham v Man Utd. Watford also have Arsenal last game of the season. Only chance of silverware for most although Man City and Man Utd still have European games after the FA Cup. The only thing we need worry about though is ourselves just win every game we stay up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, S-Platt said: FA Cup plays a big part in the relegation battle for me. Man City v Arsenal Chelsea v Man Utd Man City just rested players ahead of the Semis this weekend. Our game v Arsenal could be easier if Arsenal win but likewise so could Watford v Man City or West Ham v Man Utd. Watford also have Arsenal last game of the season. Only chance of silverware for most although Man City and Man Utd still have European games after the FA Cup. The only thing we need worry about though is ourselves just win every game we stay up! I wouldn't be worried about United. They have a mighty fight on their hands for a CL spot, especially since 5th doesn't get you one anymore. They'll be up for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Palace have been better than Everton this season imo. Even if Everton were fighting for a Europa place I'd still be hoping to beat them. They still haven't found an identity, and aren't that seemingly imperious side at Goodison anymore, especially without the fans. Now they have nothing to play for. Players might be saving themselves for potential moves. We go snapping into tackles and putting them under pressure from the first whistle, do you see them keeping up? Snapping in to tackles....us? Are you sure? you must have the wrong team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, TRO said: Snapping in to tackles....us? Are you sure? you must have the wrong team. All hands are on deck now. I can see Smith deviating from his usual style for this particular game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hippo Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 The way I see it is were definitely down ...unless we stay up. 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 There are no safely predictable results at the moment, as was proven tonight and last weekend. The final relegation places, will be greatly influenced by which teams, that are down the bottom, play the most teams that are on the beach, or that decide to rest players. They do have to be able to take advantage of that, but it is going to be a bit of a lottery isn't it and where's the integrity in that? I feel sorry for the teams that do go down this season, playing out their crucial final games, in empty stadiums, without any vocal encouragement from their supporters. I just hope that we're not one of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, hippo said: The way I see it is were definitely down ...unless we stay up. That's as good as my comment earlier that we have to beat Everton to have no chance of staying up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, John said: There are no safely predictable results at the moment, as was proven tonight and last weekend. The final relegation places, will be greatly influenced by which teams, that are down the bottom, play the most teams that are on the beach, or that decide to rest players. They do have to be able to take advantage of that, but it is going to be a bit of a lottery isn't it and where's the integrity in that? I feel sorry for the teams that do go down this season, playing out their crucial final games, in empty stadiums, without any vocal encouragement from their supporters. I just hope that we're not one of them. I hope so too john......sadly, i resigned my feelings a while ago, and events have played out accordingly......i didn't see the crystal palace result coming, so i guess hope is the best chance, we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, joshharris12 said: How is it a nail in coffin they lost they got not 3 points not 2 neither 1 they got 0 Pretty obvious really. Firstly they have a better GD than us and only dropped a -1 tonight so that makes it less likely that we'll beat them on GD if points are equal - which they may well be. Secondly, having watched the game, they played very well, should have beaten city with ease and, on that form, are now likely to beat both Southampton and Everton to finish on 37 points ...... if they do that, we are down ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, Paul33 said: likely to beat both Southampton and Everton to finish on 37 points ...... if they do that, we are down ! They played very well tonight but lacked the final touch that City had . Southampton will be harder to beat than Everton but I do agree that they will get points from both games , maybe 6 but definitely 4 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, S-Platt said: FA Cup plays a big part in the relegation battle for me. Man City v Arsenal Chelsea v Man Utd Man City just rested players ahead of the Semis this weekend. Our game v Arsenal could be easier if Arsenal win but likewise so could Watford v Man City or West Ham v Man Utd. Watford also have Arsenal last game of the season. Only chance of silverware for most although Man City and Man Utd still have European games after the FA Cup. The only thing we need worry about though is ourselves just win every game we stay up! Not if West Ham beat Watford and Man Utd and Watford beat Man City and Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Paul33 said: Secondly, having watched the game, they played very well, should have beaten city with ease How do you figure? What prevented them from winning? City had 2 stonewall penalties denied and should have been out of sight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Remember how people were saying Arsenal are on the beach. How's that going? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Man, I wish we got this much credit when we narrowly lose to top 6 sides having played well. For us, we lack bottle, have a soft underbelly etc etc. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, R.Bear said: Remember how people were saying Arsenal are on the beach. How's that going? Liverpool are on a bigger beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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