Genie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, sidcow said: A quick Google suggests that the first 4m are being manufactured abroad but then most of the 100m will be made here. There has been some hold up in making it in the UK. There’s the new national vaccine place in Liverpool I think but that is not opening until next summer (1 year early apparently). Maybe that will pick up the production once it’s ready... what could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Genie said: There’s the new national vaccine place in Liverpool I think but that is not opening until next summer (1 year early apparently). Maybe that will pick up the production once it’s ready... what could possibly go wrong? Yes, I've seen stuff about that, it's been rushed through, but I think that's more of a research and manufacture type place, a national infrastructure type of thing. I think the vaccine itself is being manufactured in pharmaceutical companies private factories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, sidcow said: Yes, I've seen stuff about that, it's been rushed through, but I think that's more of a research and manufacture type place, a national infrastructure type of thing. I think the vaccine itself is being manufactured in pharmaceutical companies private factories. I’m more comfortable with that tbh. I only just noticed that apparently AstraZeneca will be supplying it at cost price, no profit. A nice touch if accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Genie said: I’m more comfortable with that tbh. I only just noticed that apparently AstraZeneca will be supplying it at cost price, no profit. A nice touch if accurate. Yes, it's about £2.50 a shot instead of about £15 for the other big 2 currently being touted, and can be kept in a normal fridge. It's the one which will be most useful helping 3rd world countries who a) can't afford £15 a shot and b) won't have the fancy freezers to store the expensive vaccines. Bill Gates will no doubt be funding a lot of it though so those mud hut dwelling peasants will have to put up with some pretty intense surveillance from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 12 hours ago, fightoffyour said: thee did f'rgot th're hast been anoth'r patient Criminally under-rated post, this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 8, 2020 Author Share Posted December 8, 2020 Most importantly, the Oxford/AZ product comes from a well known technology platform, with known issues. This is in stark contrast to the mRNA products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Meanwhile it looks like the circuit breaker did not break the circuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 That might be the worst colour coded map I've ever seen. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: That might be the worst colour coded map I've ever seen. Yeah, it's a shocker alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I know he posts less in Off Topic these days but @Dom_Wren all recovered from covid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted December 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 hours ago, villakram said: Most importantly, the Oxford/AZ product comes from a well known technology platform, with known issues. This is in stark contrast to the mRNA products. Windows 95 is just misunderstood FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Has anyone been on a train recently? Are all the seats available or do they cordon some off for social distancing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Not a great start Quote The UK’s drug regulator has warned that people with have a history of “significant” allergic reactions should not receive the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) issued the warning after two NHS staff members who were administered with doses on Tuesday both suffered an allergic reaction. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-allergic-reactions-uk-b1768530.html%3famp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Has anyone been on a train recently? Are all the seats available or do they cordon some off for social distancing? Depends on the train I think. Inter City different to Commuter. I think they do on the Inter City ones but not on the others. Could be wrong though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I’m allergic to bloody everything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: I’m allergic to bloody everything!! I wouldn't worry about it, you were never getting the Pfizer vaccine anyway, the next batch wasn't due to be received until April anyway Oxford / AZ will be available well before then and its cheaper / easier to manage and we've got lots more of that ordered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: Has anyone been on a train recently? Are all the seats available or do they cordon some off for social distancing? There's certainly no seats cordoned off on any trains ive been on. I haven't been on one during rush hour but they are virtually empty whenever I've been on one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, bickster said: I wouldn't worry about it, you were never getting the Pfizer vaccine anyway, the next batch wasn't due to be received until April anyway Oxford / AZ will be available well before then and its cheaper / easier to manage and we've got lots more of that ordered I’m not too fussed, was never going to be asking for it any time soon anyway, just somewhat ironic after my concerns over how rushed this has all been that I’ll be ineligible for a while anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: Not a great start https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-allergic-reactions-uk-b1768530.html%3famp That's just the allergic, pregnant women, women thinking of becoming pregnant and children then. Resuscitation equipment required at all vaccine sites. Very re-assuring... they should use bigger needles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 It sounds like the reactions were not TOO serious, and both have such serious allergies that they both carry epipens. Both seem OK already. It's (rightly) probably a knee jerk, I'm sure they will work it out soon. Unless you have routinely serious allergies I would think they will clear it again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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