Popular Post ml1dch Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 39 minutes ago, Genie said: How can we do something, without actually doing anything, and actually make the situation worse? UK Government: Hold my beer and £2.99 ham and eggs... Government: "keeping fit and healthy is the way to beat this virus. Overweight people are at significantly higher risk" Also Government: "I can only let you have that pint if you also have a burger with it" 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 48 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Are they *trying* to be terrible at government? I think it just comes naturally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2020 Now those Liverpool figures are quite shocking but they also back up what I was saying about pubs / restaurants The lowest area on the map at a quick glance is St Michaels ward. It also contains the biggest drinking area in Liverpool outside of the city centre. A street almost entirely composed of restaurants and pubs, Lark Lane. Used as much by locals as it is from people from other areas The Dark areas are the city centre and Greenbank ward, so no shock here either University Halls of Residence in Greenbank and city centre along with most of the private ones in the city centre too. Greenbank and St Michaels are only separated by Sefton Park and students would go drinking on Lark Lane as much as anyone else. Pubs haven't been causing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I think it was @markavfc40 who was wondering what Andy Street had to say. We can wonder no longer: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted October 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Xann said: It's not a government, it's a robbery. "Any of you illegals move, and I'll execute every mother **** last one of you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: "Any of you illegals move, and I'll execute every mother **** last one of you" We started with the poor, now it's the elderly and people in care. Next we'll get the survivors eating shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Government: "keeping fit and healthy is the way to beat this virus. Overweight people are at significantly higher risk" Also Government: "I can only let you have that pint if you also have a burger with it" Also, no gyms. I'm unclear if there's an exemption for gyms that serve food. Edited October 12, 2020 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I think it was @markavfc40 who was wondering what Andy Street had to say. We can wonder no longer: Thank you mate. I am pleased he has said that the government must offer support to hospitality businesses. I hope he is as vocal in stating the government must offer support to those who work within those sectors, often on minimum wage, who now face seeing their income go down to under £6 per hour assuming they have a contract. Edited October 12, 2020 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, bickster said: Now those Liverpool figures are quite shocking but they also back up what I was saying about pubs / restaurants The lowest area on the map at a quick glance is St Michaels ward. It also contains the biggest drinking area in Liverpool outside of the city centre. A street almost entirely composed of restaurants and pubs, Lark Lane. Used as much by locals as it is from people from other areas The Dark areas are the city centre and Greenbank ward, so no shock here either University Halls of Residence in Greenbank and city centre along with most of the private ones in the city centre too. Greenbank and St Michaels are only separated by Sefton Park and students would go drinking on Lark Lane as much as anyone else. Pubs haven't been causing this I don’t think it backs up what you’re saying. If nobody really lives on Lark Lane then I’d expect the infection rate to be low / zero. The figures are based on living address aren’t they, not where the infection occurred (because that’s very difficult to know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bickster Posted October 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I don’t think it backs up what you’re saying. If nobody really lives on Lark Lane then I’d expect the infection rate to be low / zero. The figures are based on living address aren’t they, not where the infection occurred (because that’s very difficult to know). St Michaels is an entire council ward, thousands of people live and work there. The locals drink there and so do people from all over Merseyside. It entirely backs up my argument. It would absolutely be an epicentre of infection but it isn't its the lowest number per 1000 in the whole city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Government: "keeping fit and healthy is the way to beat this virus. Overweight people are at significantly higher risk" Also Government: "I can only let you have that pint if you also have a burger with it" This would be the same govt that wanted us to use common sense and handed out half price burger vouchers. Trouble is, 51% of voters are selfish cretins. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, snowychap said: At least gives them a opportunity to stay open and not go bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, chrisp65 said: This would be the same govt that wanted us to use common sense and handed out half price burger vouchers. Trouble is, 51% of voters are selfish cretins. Yeah but the burgers tasted good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bickster said: St Michaels is an entire council ward, thousands of people live and work there. The locals drink there and so do people from all over Merseyside. It entirely backs up my argument. It would absolutely be an epicentre of infection but it isn't its the lowest number per 1000 in the whole city The 382/100k in St Michaels is absolutely massive in its own right. The huge numbers only show where the people who have it are living, not where they got it. They could very possibly have got it in the city’s pubs.. or not, but the data doesn’t confirm that because those with the virus don’t live in the same street as the pubs it’s not going to the pubs that where they caught/spread it. Its like saying that if Villa played Wolves at Wembley next week and the Government allows 90,000 fans to attend. 3 weeks later there’s no significant uplift in cases in the Wembley area drawing the conclusion that football is perfectly safe and the stadiums should open up full capacity. Edited October 12, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: At least gives them a opportunity to stay open and not go bust. Yes but it perhaps rather underscores the notion that it's all rather arbitrary. It also potentially creates another grey area full of confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Usual form, if people want to find out more about the regulations and what they may mean then they can do worse than follow Adam Wagner's twitter account, e.g.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Yeah but the burgers tasted good. Is about the level of deep thinking that people achieved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted October 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Genie said: The 382/100k in St Michaels is absolutely massive in its own right. The huge numbers only show where the people who have it are living, not where they got it. They could very possibly have got it in the city’s pubs.. or not, but the data doesn’t confirm that because those with the virus don’t live in the same street as the pubs it’s not going to the pubs that where they caught/spread it. Its like saying that if Villa played Wolves at Wembley next week and the Government allows 90,000 fans to attend. 3 weeks later there’s no significant uplift in cases in the Wembley area drawing the conclusion that football is perfectly safe and the stadiums should open up full capacity. You have a complete lack of understanding of the dynamics of the area Yes the 300+ is big but it also by far the lowest total anywhere in the city Most of the people who work on Lark Lane live locally. Vast majority of the locals, go out there to socialise. Its one streets but has 95% of the licensed establishments in the area. It's like a village in the city, the ward has for years always returned Green councillors, it's different and it's very much a "use local" area. People move there because of that. Regardless of others coming into the ward if pubs and restaurants were causing this, the incidence would be much higher than it is There are areas on that map that have very few pubs and restarurants and the infection rate is much higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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