KenjiOgiwara Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, Genie said: If AZ are asked to check certain batches for a connection to blood clots they will be able to rapidly check the samples for levels of ingredients that could influence a blood clot. I'm not so sure. Real life lab work isn't like television and csi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, mjmooney said: All this is starting to make me worry about the fact that I didn't get any such reactions, and felt pretty much fine. Hope the bastards didn't give me a placebo. Dont worry, everyone else is just being a bit of a Nancy Boy. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, sidcow said: Dont worry, everyone else is just being a bit of a Nancy Boy. I typed out this twice and deleted it twice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Seat68 said: I typed out this twice and deleted it twice. Oh, have I been un PC there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, sidcow said: Oh, have I been un PC there? No. Not at all. I thought no one would get it if the truth be known. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, markavfc40 said: It is just your other arm coming out in sympathy. A phantom vaccination. I had a similar condition when my missus was pregnant and I put on 3 stone. I also had my first jab yesterday and have felt like crap since getting up this morning, aching all over, bit of a sore throat. Mild flu like symptoms I suppose which I think is quite common. Actually I felt fine this morning 24 hours on, but I took a dive after dinner. Bit of a headache, shivery and generally lacking energy. However: 1) we did a round robbin on parents dropping off mothers day stuff and spent a lot of time in the perishing cold with sprinkling of rain. 2) I didn't drink a anything for about 4 hours so not to need the toilet so may be a little dehydrated. 3) my son drove and played drum and bass music which went right through my head. Got back about an hour ago, dropped some paracetamol, had a drink and a bit of a kip and feel much better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted March 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Seat68 said: No. Not at all. I thought no one would get it if the truth be known. Well you missed out on a like from me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 13/03/2021 at 11:49, sharkyvilla said: My brother got his text inviting him to go to his jab and he's only 40, the jammy bastard. I got the same text and I'm only 30. Got no underlying health conditions at all so seems a bit strange why I've been contacted. Edited March 15, 2021 by Okonokos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 18 hours ago, bickster said: Nurses should really be a guide to anything. My missus works with an Immunisation team, half of them refused the Pfizer Vaccine because they wanted to wait for the "British" one (AZ) ANd these are nurses who you'd think knew a little bit more about vaccinations that your average nurse Absolutely this. Healthcare professionals are terrible for 1. Looking after themselves and 2. Having weird views on medical things. I've said before that my wife works in labs in a large hospital and I'm always shocked at what she tells me about other biomedical scientists, consultants and nurses. Lots of them smoke, are morbidly obese, drink excessively. Then loads will never have yearly flu vaccines. This time with the COVID vaccine quite a few of her dept (estimating 20%) won't have any COVID vaccine for *really* daft reasons. It boggles my mind that these people have degrees and years of experience with molecular biology yet won't have the vaccine. Then again it always amazes me how many NHS workers vote Tory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 15, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, darrenm said: Absolutely this. Healthcare professionals are terrible for 1. Looking after themselves and 2. Having weird views on medical things. I've said before that my wife works in labs in a large hospital and I'm always shocked at what she tells me about other biomedical scientists, consultants and nurses. Lots of them smoke, are morbidly obese, drink excessively. Then loads will never have yearly flu vaccines. This time with the COVID vaccine quite a few of her dept (estimating 20%) won't have any COVID vaccine for *really* daft reasons. It boggles my mind that these people have degrees and years of experience with molecular biology yet won't have the vaccine. Then again it always amazes me how many NHS workers vote Tory. Yes, very much agree with all of that but I think I've found my new calling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Okonokos said: I got the same text and I'm only 30. Got no underlying health conditions at all so seems a bit strange why I've been contacted. Are you carrier of thalassemia? Alot of my friends are your age and they been invited due to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, darrenm said: Absolutely this. Healthcare professionals are terrible for 1. Looking after themselves and 2. Having weird views on medical things. I've said before that my wife works in labs in a large hospital and I'm always shocked at what she tells me about other biomedical scientists, consultants and nurses. Lots of them smoke, are morbidly obese, drink excessively. Then loads will never have yearly flu vaccines. This time with the COVID vaccine quite a few of her dept (estimating 20%) won't have any COVID vaccine for *really* daft reasons. It boggles my mind that these people have degrees and years of experience with molecular biology yet won't have the vaccine. Then again it always amazes me how many NHS workers vote Tory. I use to work in respiratory and would you believe the specialist nurses and consultants there smoked? Crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 15, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2021 I've stopped checking this thread very much. I've got very much overwhelmed with Covid news and I'm kinda just letting it happen now without trying to keep up on everything that's happening. But it warms my heart to pop in and see so many VTers getting the jab so quickly. I imagine I'm way down the line but we'll all be there sooner or alter. I dread to think how bleak things would feel without the vaccines 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Complete digression, but it always strikes me that the best doctors I've come across for myself and my family, always, absolutely always, have been eastern European or middle eastern. No idea why. Norwegian doctors have gone 5-6 year to the medical school and got 3 answers for absolutely everything. 1) Take Ibuprophen or Paracetamol. 2) Rest. 3) Come back if it gets worse. The only positive thing is that they normally don't throw antiobiotics around like it's tic tacs (which they tend to do in a lot of European countries). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Complete digression, but it always strikes me that the best doctors I've come across for myself and my family, always, absolutely always, have been eastern European or middle eastern. No idea why. Norwegian doctors have gone 5-6 year to the medical school and got 3 answers for absolutely everything. 1) Take Ibuprophen or Paracetamol. 2) Rest. 3) Come back if it gets worse. The only positive thing is that they normally don't throw antiobiotics around like it's tic tacs (which they tend to do in a lot of European countries). That's very similar to UK GPs. They trot out the same (1), (2) and (3), and if that won't do, they refer you to a hospital specialist. In fact, that seems to be their main function - as a referral service for hospitals, and actual doctors who will take responsibility for coming up with a diagnosis and treatment. It used to be that GPs were 'jack of all trades' (even if masters of none). Now they seem to be scared to speculate on what might be wrong with a patient. I've even seen them Googling symptoms - when I'd already done that myself, and was hoping for a bit more expert knowledge! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 A whole bunch of people in my team having their vaccinations this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, mjmooney said: That's very similar to UK GPs. They trot out the same (1), (2) and (3), and if that won't do, they refer you to a hospital specialist. In fact, that seems to be their main function - as a referral service for hospitals, and actual doctors who will take responsibility for coming up with a diagnosis and treatment. It used to be that GPs were 'jack of all trades' (even if masters of none). Now they seem to be scared to speculate on what might be wrong with a patient. I've even seen them Googling symptoms - when I'd already done that myself, and was hoping for a bit more expert knowledge! Spot on. I laughed at the googling, cause I've seen doctors do that myself. We also have a GP thing going on. Might be similar to your system. Basically all people are assigned a GP and you can apply at one and move clinic if you want to etc. But there's a huge difference when it comes to old and young GPs and how qualified they are. They very much are a referral service like you say. Anything out of the ordinary and you have to go to someone else/specialist. I've had so many bad experiences with it I've stopped using them, and just use private ones now. Four times the price, but no waiting time. And considering I go to the doctor once every 5 years, that's a cost I'm willing to take to speak with someone who knows more than what I can google. Edited March 15, 2021 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Are you carrier of thalassemia? Alot of my friends are your age and they been invited due to that Nope. I've got absolutely nothing wrong (that I know of). I am curious to find out why I've been contacted though. Maybe it's one of those where they have my height as 5.10cm instead of feet so my BMI is through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Spot on. I laughed at the googling, cause I've seen doctors do that myself. We also have a GP thing going on. Might be similar to your system. Basically all people are assigned a GP and you can apply at one and move clinic if you want to etc. But there's a huge difference when it comes to old and young GPs and how qualified they are. They very much are a referral service like you say. Anything out of the ordinary and you have to go to someone else/specialist. I've had so many bad experiences with it I've stopped using them, and just use private ones now. Four times the price, but no waiting time. And considering I go to the doctor once every 5 years, that's a cost I'm willing to take to speak with someone who knows more than what I can google. Yep, as Mike said, they're basically triage now. Too scared and not enough time to investigate anything further than referring anything that can't be pushed away from another day, referred to a specialist or prescribed with something recommended on the NHS site. I can Google symptoms and cast the same critical eye as them so the only reason I'll go to a GP now is if I think I'll need to be referred. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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