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2 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

No one will have a **** clue with regards to numbers of the infected.  It's absolutely pointless plucking a number out of the air, once that germ/virus gets "out", there are so many variables to consider it's literally saying "pick a number between 1 and a billion".  

 

Absolutely, I'm just posting the numbers that Johns Hopkins are reporting, they seem like as credible source as you could hope for.

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5 hours ago, sne said:

I imagine this would not have been possible in many other countries, almost makes those silly "arks" they built in 2012 a bit less implausible.

 

Incredible. 

I wonder how it all got past health and safety and whom the central contracts went through (national building service perhaps?)

Our NIMBY's wouldn't have even got their protest signs organised in 4 days :lol:  

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43 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

Incredible. 

I wonder how it all got past health and safety and whom the central contracts went through (national building service perhaps?)

Our NIMBY's wouldn't have even got their protest signs organised in 4 days :lol:  

Neo-lib eyes are opened wide.

Modular crap housing is where our kids will live.

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45 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

Incredible. 

I wonder how it all got past health and safety and whom the central contracts went through (national building service perhaps?)

Our NIMBY's wouldn't have even got their protest signs organised in 4 days :lol:  

I work in Supply Chain these days. The latest project we're working on has been a **** nightmare. Sourcing 200 parts and getting them in. And we've had over a year to do it.

The thought of getting all of the material and parts needed for that hospital in such a quick time gives me nightmares, before you even get to the building it part!

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1 minute ago, Stevo985 said:

I work in Supply Chain these days. The latest project we're working on has been a **** nightmare. Sourcing 200 parts and getting them in. And we've had over a year to do it.

The thought of getting all of the material and parts needed for that hospital in such a quick time gives me nightmares, before you even get to the building it part!

Groundwork's, demolition, contamination surveys, the sheer amount of concrete laying/drying.  

I imagine there is no service in it currently, no electrics/mechanical for heating/cooling - or is there? 

But it's still a major infrastructure project which has gone up in 4 days, regardless of the quality or how modular it is - it's an amazing testament to what can be achieved.

Who even planned the **** thing?  How many managers, in unison are relaying the messages to the workforce to do anything with any degree of accuracy?  

Really is mind blowing. 

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10 minutes ago, lapal_fan said:

Groundwork's, demolition, contamination surveys, the sheer amount of concrete laying/drying.  

I imagine there is no service in it currently, no electrics/mechanical for heating/cooling - or is there? 

But it's still a major infrastructure project which has gone up in 4 days, regardless of the quality or how modular it is - it's an amazing testament to what can be achieved.

Who even planned the **** thing?  How many managers, in unison are relaying the messages to the workforce to do anything with any degree of accuracy?  

Really is mind blowing. 

Exactly. The video just shows the building process. It blows my mind to think of the amount of planning and work that you don't see on that that must have gone into it.

 

Even if the thing was made out of paper, the sheer work to get it up in that much time is ridiculous.

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Obviously hard to tell from the quick video but it looks to me like they've excavated a shallow foundation done a massive overkill raft foundation (basically mass poured reinforced concrete under the concrete slab rather than strips or pads - really expensive) and then they've placed pre fabricated modular units on top and then clad them, would expect those units to come with basic hvac but doubt it's suitable for a hospital 

No way could you do that in any other country

And that concrete will be nowhere near cured before they put the weight on it

Those modular units will have been requisitioned too so another project somewhere isn't happening for another 12 months 

And I doubt there's drainage.... 

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It’s not a ‘hospital’ that I’d want an operation or serious health care in on day 9.

It’s a holding facility of portakabins. Impressive in it’s own right, but not exactly state of the art.

Even just a portable / modular dental Wray machine needs specialist surfaces and wall linings and sealed ceilings that takes weeks of commissioning. I’ve installed a couple and it speeded up the install from 6 months to 2 months. For a single room.

The Chinese probably didn’t have the planning issues you or me may encounter. Ironically, we’d be stopped for 6 weeks whilst the bat protection people did a survey.

 

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3 hours ago, lapal_fan said:

racist bruce lee GIF

You are the one who read it that way. Instead, think of all the proles in London/Dublin or NY/SF who complain about lack of affordable housing, ka-ching!

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2 hours ago, chrisp65 said:

It’s not a ‘hospital’ that I’d want an operation or serious health care in on day 9.

It’s a holding facility of portakabins. Impressive in it’s own right, but not exactly state of the art.

Even just a portable / modular dental Wray machine needs specialist surfaces and wall linings and sealed ceilings that takes weeks of commissioning. I’ve installed a couple and it speeded up the install from 6 months to 2 months. For a single room.

The Chinese probably didn’t have the planning issues you or me may encounter. Ironically, we’d be stopped for 6 weeks whilst the bat protection people did a survey.

 

Undoubtedly true, but it's still an astonishing feat.  I work in a hospital and there's so many things you don't even think about, yet are covered like sealed floors, isolation rooms (which I imagine this will contain), Jesus, even water running.

It's amazing.  Takes me 3 days to decorate a room :lol:

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New advice from FCO is any Brits still in China who can leave, should. That’s about 30,000 so assume any returnees would be advised to self isolate at home..

Heard some clever sounding virus expert fella on the radio saying it’ll be global by May, no real prospect of containing it in China or anywhere else.

Apparently Thai doctors had some success treating it with a cocktail of drugs including HIV antiretrovirals. What that might suggest about the nature of the virus is way out of my understanding, but even if that is correct I don’t imagine there’s huge stocks of those to treat a wider global pandemic. 

I guess it will just burn through eventually, but if the 2% death rate is correct the final toll could be pretty sobering. 

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